Why are you not simply using pills?

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Why are PDE5i not a solution for you

Lack of efficacy
16
59%
Discomfort, side effects
7
26%
Inconvenience
0
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Severe adverse effects (vision loss, hearing loss, stroke, heart complications, etc) Please add description in comments
3
11%
Safety concerns (which haven't happened so far)
1
4%
 
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TwoStep
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Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby TwoStep » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:04 am

Most people here find pills insufficient to treat their ED. How did they fail you?
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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby bldoink » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:07 am

I never tried them before my RP. Post RP they just don't work. They do seem to give other methods a boost so I do use them some for that.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby Flavio » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:34 pm

Most men aren't using pills because they don't know how to use them.

This is why it's so important to seek professional help before trying any new treatment: it's not just about finding the right treatment, you have to know how to use it.

In the year 2023, many men still believe that Viagra will give them an instant erection. It won't. Viagra is just an erection facilitator, not an erection initiator.

And let's not even mention combination therapy. I'd love to know the percentage of men that actually know what that is.

Cialis would be (almost) useless for me if I used it on its own; combined with oral phentolamine, however, it is an atomic bomb. Both drugs work sinergistically.

Today, there are several clinics that sell combined therapies. It's pure logic: if ED is a multifactorial condition, then combination therapy is the logical solution.
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby Flavio » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:36 pm

I've been using pills for more than 15 years and will continue to do so.
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby TwoStep » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:22 am

For "severe adverse effects" please add a comment describing it

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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby s7utty » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:53 am

Flavio wrote:Most men aren't using pills because they don't know how to use them.

This is why it's so important to seek professional help before trying any new treatment: it's not just about finding the right treatment, you have to know how to use it.

In the year 2023, many men still believe that Viagra will give them an instant erection. It won't. Viagra is just an erection facilitator, not an erection initiator.

And let's not even mention combination therapy. I'd love to know the percentage of men that actually know what that is.

Cialis would be (almost) useless for me if I used it on its own; combined with oral phentolamine, however, it is an atomic bomb. Both drugs work sinergistically.

Today, there are several clinics that sell combined therapies. It's pure logic: if ED is a multifactorial condition, then combination therapy is the logical solution.



In which form do you use phentolamime ? is it injection or in pill form ? interesting you say without it cialis almost doesnt work because phentolamine is also a part of trimix.
40mg seems a strong dose as in injection there is much less.
28 years old. some form of ED always with me entire life.
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19th May 22' - doppler, 10mcg PGE1, good inflow, terrible outflow (EDV) of 15cm/s.
Currently about to visit Paris to dr Allaire seeking for further help.

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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby dtwarren1942 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:03 pm

What dose of oral phentolamine are you using?
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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby Old Guy » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:00 pm

I was using name brand Viagra. After about 4 years it got to it may or may not work. Upped the dose then the side effect of migraines started.
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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby Flavio » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:20 pm

s7utty wrote:[...] In which form do you use phentolamime ? is it injection or in pill form ? interesting you say without it cialis almost doesnt work because phentolamine is also a part of trimix.
40mg seems a strong dose as in injection there is much less.


Oral tablets that I order from China, where oral phentolamine is an approved ED treatment.

Phentolamine is an old drug and there are many side effects (e.g. headaches, hypotension) but it works for me. I tried several alpha blockers and this was the only one that worked.
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: Why are you not simply using pills?

Postby s7utty » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:45 am

Flavio wrote:
s7utty wrote:[...] In which form do you use phentolamime ? is it injection or in pill form ? interesting you say without it cialis almost doesnt work because phentolamine is also a part of trimix.
40mg seems a strong dose as in injection there is much less.


Oral tablets that I order from China, where oral phentolamine is an approved ED treatment.

Phentolamine is an old drug and there are many side effects (e.g. headaches, hypotension) but it works for me. I tried several alpha blockers and this was the only one that worked.


thanks for response bro. Do you know if our body can develop tolerance to phentolamine ? Because as you have mentioned - alphablockers - yes, many tried terazosin with very good results, however…. terazosin kinda quickly builds up tolerance unfortunately so i didnt even give it a check. How is it with phentolamine ? How long you use it as for this day and did you had to increase dose over time or u sattled at one amount ?
Regards
28 years old. some form of ED always with me entire life.
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19th May 22' - doppler, 10mcg PGE1, good inflow, terrible outflow (EDV) of 15cm/s.
Currently about to visit Paris to dr Allaire seeking for further help.


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