Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

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SaltRun9003
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Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby SaltRun9003 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:11 pm

Per this article extensively studying venous leaks

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 5819847318

Veno-occlusive dysfunction resulting in ED remains under-researched with a poor-quality evidence base and whilst undoubtedly a definite clinical entity, there remains a significant number of unanswered questions at all stages of the patient pathway.

Investigations are hindered by the inability to account for varying degrees of arterial insufficiency and by the potential presence of minor but still significant venous leak sites undetectable in the presence of a greater leak. Whilst an attempt at diagnostic standardisation has been made, reliable reproducibility is yet to be achieved and the true aetiology in most cases remains elusive.

Effective management options are based on resection or ligation of the offending venous drainage with a significant decline in efficacy with follow-up exceeding 12 months, perhaps as a consequence of collateral drainage.

It is likely that veno-occlusive dysfunction represents a spectrum of severity, the assumption being that there is a critical level of dysfunction, probably related in part to arterial inflow integrity and penile volumetric change with tumescence at which a patient becomes symptomatic. This would indicate that at greater degrees of arterial insufficiency, a lesser degree of veno-occlusive dysfunction would yield ED than would be required in the presence of adequate arterial inflow.


So, if you want to look at my other post I made yesterday, I was diagnosed with a venous leak but pills still work for me most of the time. It really depends on my mood. I've also read on this site and many other places that men say pills work for them despite being diagnosed with a venous leak. Venous leaks also have a 50% false positive diagnosis (the articles are linked in my other post). As that article outlines, every test they have for them has issues and men that were previously diagnosed via whatever method are later cleared. So much of this is just anxiety triggering a "venous leak". It probably mostly comes down to performance anxiety for most men.

I really think they need to stop diagnosing this shit until they have a better understanding of it because it wreaks havoc on men that get diagnosed with it. I've been staring into the abyss.
31 years old, ED since 23. Potential priapism due to trazodone while sleeping Jan 2022, pills have been unreliable since. VL diagnosed via doppler about a week after potential priapism.

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby TwoStep » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:37 pm

Right. Swelling of the corpora is what stops the outflow during a normal erection so venous leak is more or less just the same as erectile dysfunction. And viagra can temporarily help close the “leak” for the same reason.

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby frank66665 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:58 pm

I have venous leak, the pills still work well even if at high dosages, 150 sildenafil or 28/30 vardenafil, I can fuck 20/25 minutes safe, rarely 30 minutes
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not always and well, trt in progress improved but not so much, myocardial infarction january 2016, new stent september 2016, hypertension, venous on 1/23/23 titan one touch 22, no rte dottor Gabriele Antonini Italia

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby HappyAgain » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:02 pm

I had venous leak as well as severe cardiac issues so I couldn’t take high doses of viagra or cialis. Went straight to implant and couldn’t be happier. I usually get oral to star the foreplay and that causes my left side and head to swell to a nice round 5.5 girth that my wife loves.

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:32 pm

How are so many people on trazadone?

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby SaltRun9003 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:30 pm

PSSDorAmINormal wrote:How are so many people on trazadone?


I go over it in my other post, but I was prescribed it for insomnia after my divorce. That garbage should be illegal. There are so many accounts of it causing priapism and my shrink didn't mention that at all. God damn junkies ruined the likelihood of being prescribed benzos in times of extreme distress and insomnia like a divorce so they play roulette with our dicks instead.

I think I'm okay, though. Physically, anyway. Mentally I'm a mess.
31 years old, ED since 23. Potential priapism due to trazodone while sleeping Jan 2022, pills have been unreliable since. VL diagnosed via doppler about a week after potential priapism.

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:49 pm

SaltRun9003 wrote:
I go over it in my other post, but I was prescribed it for insomnia after my divorce. That garbage should be illegal. There are so many accounts of it causing priapism and my shrink didn't mention that at all. God damn junkies ruined the likelihood of being prescribed benzos in times of extreme distress and insomnia like a divorce so they play roulette with our dicks instead.

I think I'm okay, though. Physically, anyway. Mentally I'm a mess.


I looked over that article that you linked. What occurred to me is that I've never had any urologist mention NPT or NEVA diagnostics. ZERO.
The article explains that both tests are used to check nocturnal penile tumescence. I wouldn't mind a little trazadone if it helps that much with erections. Not to the point of 5 hour erection or more.

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby SteveSW » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:10 am

FWIW, I was diagnosed with a serious veinous leak via a lengthy ultrasound. He spent a few minutes moving the wand (for lack of an accurate word) up and down the length of my Trimix induced partial erection. After telling me his interpretation of what he saw, he had me look at the screen and very carefully showed and explained what the test revealed. The way he explained what I was seeing, showed a veinous leak, where blood was leaving my dick faster than it was flowing in. I could actually see it happening in living color.
20 years of severe Peyronie's plaque, 90 curve, hinging and ED. Cost me 1.5" L and 1" G.
Implanted 2/18/21, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal. Have gained 3/4". Gay, married, age 68.

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby Bambino09 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:31 pm

HOLA YO TUBE PRIAPISMO EN UNA ECO DOPLER PPR 3 HORAS Y DEBIERON DRENARME TU CREES QUE PUDE HABER DESARROLLADO FUGA VENOSA. EL ESTUDIO HABIA SALIDO BIEN

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Re: Venous Leaks Might Be Nonsense

Postby s7utty » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:18 am

Bambino09 wrote:HOLA YO TUBE PRIAPISMO EN UNA ECO DOPLER PPR 3 HORAS Y DEBIERON DRENARME TU CREES QUE PUDE HABER DESARROLLADO FUGA VENOSA. EL ESTUDIO HABIA SALIDO BIEN



If antidote didnt work for you like in my case, where they gave me 3x antidote and had to drain us this means no venous issues. we are good
28 years old. some form of ED always with me entire life.
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19th May 22' - doppler, 10mcg PGE1, good inflow, terrible outflow (EDV) of 15cm/s.
Currently about to visit Paris to dr Allaire seeking for further help.


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