Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

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Fourtytwo00
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Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby Fourtytwo00 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:56 pm

Hi buddies,

I'm 42 and due to pituitary issues I found myself in the very low T range since almost 1 year.
1.68 ng/mL last check.
I started gel one months and a half ago. I reported some benefit on my mood, brain fog, etc.
I didn't have great expectations but after two/three weeks my nocturnals were back, had some good erections and started being responsive at tadalafi daily 5mg.
But.. it lasted 7-10 days then back to baseline. Perhaps just a little bit better during the night. Still some erections but not booners.

After 1 month T went up to 2.97 ng/mL and free T 19.9 pg/mL (lower bound 30-50yo
20.8).

Do most expert users could figure out an explanation?
Is it possible that moving from gel to injections could bring some benefit?

Does testicular shrinkage could make an implant more unpleasant / visible?

vinnylid
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Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby vinnylid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:03 pm

The gel did nothing for me. I now use subcut. twice weekly injection and can dial my goal very easily. I target 500=600 total which keep my hematocrits in range
79 years old; Viagra, herbals and stimulants have all stopped working. Treating psoriatic arthritis and thyroid. Low testosterone-started TRT april 2018; using Quadmix 20 units, cockring, Lafayette, Georgia usa

tomas1
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Location: Tempe, AZ

Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby tomas1 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:32 pm

I have shrunken balls and an implant.
I asked my surgeon if that was a problem and he said it was just the opposite.
He was right in my case.
85 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.

vinnylid
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Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby vinnylid » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:53 pm

I started Testosterone Cyp Sdv on 05/29/18. I inject 0.2mg twice weekly into my belly fat. I stay around 600ng/dL and free testosterone of 13 and Estradiol of 15. I have not experienced any testicle shrinkage. A lot of the cases of testicle shrinkage have been with higher doses less often and injected IM.
79 years old; Viagra, herbals and stimulants have all stopped working. Treating psoriatic arthritis and thyroid. Low testosterone-started TRT april 2018; using Quadmix 20 units, cockring, Lafayette, Georgia usa

dtwarren1942
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Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby dtwarren1942 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:26 pm

Several years ago, I used AndroGel for about six months and raised my T level from 295 to over 800. However, it didn’t have much effect on my ED, my balls shrunk, and when my PSA began to rise, my Endocrinologist recommended I stop using it.
Age 81
Diabetic
Pumping
Started Trimix injections 8/'11

Fourtytwo00
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Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby Fourtytwo00 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:15 pm

I'm using Tostrex 50mg per day. It raised my level just below 300 last time I checked.

What I found difficult to explain is that it helped my ED for about 7 days then slowly back to the baseline.
Something similar happened months ago when I tried gonadotropin. I had one ore two weeks where I had some results then nothing.

Martin6469
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Location: St. Louis, USA

Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby Martin6469 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:14 pm

I've had very good results with gels for 15 years; currently using compounding pharmacy custom prescription. $30/month - cheaper than AndroGel. Gels were a big logistics improvement over the twice-a-month peanut oil injections at the doc's office, but both gave me identical and good results. Don't have experience with self-injection. I like to keep T around 400ng/dL=4ng/mL.

Fourtytwo00: I don't know why your T values oscillate, but an endocrinologist might be a better bet than a urologist in figuring it out. Hormones are very complicated.
Age 78 in 2023. On testosterone replacement due to hypothalamus malfunction. (Attention depressed guys: low testosterone is a cause.) Healthy health nut but ED due to getting old. Like to keep enough cardiovascular ability to thrust for 30 min.

gjmjoe017
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Location: NW Arkansas

Re: Testosterone: gel Vs injection - experiences & support needed

Postby gjmjoe017 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:55 am

My Insurance won’t cover gel but does cover injections which work great for me.A no brainer in my case!
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.


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