Losing size each year, how much?

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Corvette
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Re: Losing size each year, how much?

Postby Corvette » Fri May 21, 2021 11:40 pm

Lost Sheep
Yes my Wife's hiatus was due to her being more interested in her numerous hobbies and other outside activities.
Yes I have used Viagra, Cialis, I have used a vacuum pump (medical Grade), and I've used trimix and Bimix as injections. Those took some considerable nerve. The pills worked for a while, the pump worked for a very short while and the injections worked, but after piercing my urethra, I just could bring my self to do it. The Doctors only wanted to prescribe 29ga needles and my diabetes injections are only 32ga. I couldn't seem to get them to see the difference.
Thanks for you comments.
Diabetic 15yrs, Heart Disease, Bipolar/PTSD

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Re: Losing size each year, how much?

Postby oldbeek » Sat May 22, 2021 5:36 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
opolion wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:In addition to ETGuy71's excellent response, I note that there is an alternative protocol for VED use.

When I first got a VED, I followed the twice a day 20-30 minute protocol. Later I learned that intermittent vacuum-release-vacuum can do the same tissue stretching (for maintaining elasticity) function, but also performs a second function (which may be just as vital to tissue health). Creating an erection by vacuum for a minute or ss and then letting it go flaccid for 30-30 seconds repeatedly will flush blood through the penile tissues. Granted. some of it depleted venous blood, but some of it will be fresh, oxygenated arterial blood as well. This nutrient and oxygen infused blood is important to all your body's tissues.

You could do both protocols. One at night and one in the morning or however you would like to schedule yourself.


Thanks for your advice Lost Sheep. For how long did you use a VED, only shortly before your Implant surgery, or for longer, or are you still using it, on top if having an implant?

The first Medical Journal article I read suggested 60 days as optimal, but the first 30 days gave the bulk of the results. I used the VED for more than a year. The reason is that it took that long for me to find a surgeon I wanted to do the job who was available. I contacted several (including the two most prominently mentioned here on the East Coast - I live in Alaska, by the way) but did not find one in whom I had enough confidence until October 2017.

I do not use a VED now because my pump is high and I cannot get a good seal around the base of my penis. I keep promising myself to machine the mouth of the tube to fit.

Lost Sheep, do you think WE should be using a VED after being implanted? Implant erects things but still doesn't give any blood flow. I have been wondering about this, but never thought to ask my surgeon.
79, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .08 11/18,.07 1/19,.05 4/19, .06 2/20 Pain with trimix, implant 4-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6 x 4.5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: Losing size each year, how much?

Postby Lost Sheep » Sat May 22, 2021 11:38 pm

oldbeek wrote: Lost Sheep, do you think WE should be using a VED after being implanted? Implant erects things but still doesn't give any blood flow. I have been wondering about this, but never thought to ask my surgeon.

The protocol I have seen for VED use post-implant goes like this:

Inflate the implant
Apply vacuum

As I figure it, you don't apply vacuum to the uninflated so that you don't run the risk of pulling tissues away from the implant and creating an abscess. So I would inflate the implant and then apply vacuum to engorge the penile tissues and relieve SOME of the strain on the tissues. In that way, the tissues stretched by the implant get a little additional stretch and this might enable a bit more potential for size growth, both length and girth. Do not over-vacuum at this point, either. Abscess or edema or other bad outcomes may ensue.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.

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Re: Losing size each year, how much?

Postby oldbeek » Sun May 23, 2021 10:29 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
oldbeek wrote: Lost Sheep, do you think WE should be using a VED after being implanted? Implant erects things but still doesn't give any blood flow. I have been wondering about this, but never thought to ask my surgeon.

The protocol I have seen for VED use post-implant goes like this:

Inflate the implant
Apply vacuum

As I figure it, you don't apply vacuum to the uninflated so that you don't run the risk of pulling tissues away from the implant and creating an abscess. So I would inflate the implant and then apply vacuum to engorge the penile tissues and relieve SOME of the strain on the tissues. In that way, the tissues stretched by the implant get a little additional stretch and this might enable a bit more potential for size growth, both length and girth. Do not over-vacuum at this point, either. Abscess or edema or other bad outcomes may ensue.
. The question was,, Do you think we need to use the VED to create blood flow for health of the tissue. OR,, Is just stretching it out with the implant all we need.
79, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .08 11/18,.07 1/19,.05 4/19, .06 2/20 Pain with trimix, implant 4-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6 x 4.5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: Losing size each year, how much?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon May 24, 2021 2:24 am

oldbeek wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
oldbeek wrote: Lost Sheep, do you think WE should be using a VED after being implanted? Implant erects things but still doesn't give any blood flow. I have been wondering about this, but never thought to ask my surgeon.

The protocol I have seen for VED use post-implant goes like this:

Inflate the implant
Apply vacuum

As I figure it, you don't apply vacuum to the uninflated so that you don't run the risk of pulling tissues away from the implant and creating an abscess. So I would inflate the implant and then apply vacuum to engorge the penile tissues and relieve SOME of the strain on the tissues. In that way, the tissues stretched by the implant get a little additional stretch and this might enable a bit more potential for size growth, both length and girth. Do not over-vacuum at this point, either. Abscess or edema or other bad outcomes may ensue.
. The question was,, Do you think we need to use the VED to create blood flow for health of the tissue. OR,, Is just stretching it out with the implant all we need.

And the answer is, "yes" Though it is more important pre-implant than post.

Apparently my original answer was not clear. The VED both stretches tissue AND pulls blood into penile tissues. So it helps retain or regain size and it helps flush blood through tissues that may have had their blood flow compromized. So, it is not an eiither/or question but two questions I saw. And the answer is, "both".
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.

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Re: Losing size each year, how much?

Postby Artist » Tue May 25, 2021 5:58 am

Being in my late sixties, a PC survivor who suffered from ED prior to surgery I understand loss of length. I am regaining length through rehab using a Prelude and an Augusta medical grade pump. If been doing this for several years.
68 years of age, afflicted with ED in my late 40’s and treated with Viagra. Started treatment for hypertension at the age of 50; diagnosed with PC at age 50, RP at age of 51 years.


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