Before and after:

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Lost Sheep
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Before and after:

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:22 pm

Before and after stories of sex:

I was thinking about how long I can continue having sex, now that I can have erections that are reliable and long-lasting. I wondered about the experiences of other men, “How does the sex you (can) have now compare with the sex you had 1) Before E.D. and 2) before your E.D. was successfully treated.”

Tell me your story, please. If you are comfortable doing so, I hope your replies will include some focus on your relationship(s), both sexual and related spinoffs.

The simplest answer is, of course, just counting the minutes you could engage in actual penetrative sex. But feel free to elaborate in this thread or in PM if you like.

Here is my story:

Even before E.D., in order to keep an erection, I had to maintain intense and continuous stimulation. If I eased off on thrusting, I lost the erection to venous leakage. If I continued thrusting, I lost the erection to orgasm. Lose-lose; the "Catch-22" dilemma.

Therefore, the length of time occupied by actual thrusting, for me, often could be measured in seconds rather than minutes.

Most of my sexual encounters were "quickies", not by choice, but just how they came out. My partner rarely orgasmed from sex. When I learned how to do cunnilingus, I was at least able to give something back to my lovers, but it was still less than satisfactory for each of us. The "icing" on the cake was still absent. The closeness of prolonged coitus (PIV sex) was sorely missed by both of us regardless of whether she had orgasms by other means.

Now that I have erections that are predictable, reliable and long-lasting, love-making sessions are quite different (and continue to evolve with my lady). Right now, we usually have actual, active, PIV sex for 10 to 20 minutes. This DOES NOT include foreplay, afterplay, oral sex, massage, masturbating each other etc, but is only actual, active, penis-in-vagina penetrative sex, most of which is fairly vigorous in-and-out thrusting. (Aside: During coitus, she generally has several orgasms, which seems miraculous to me after decades of their absence with most of my partners.) It does not hurt that, after implant, I take longer to orasm/ejaculate than ever before (at least since the age of 20 or so).

Our love-making is a mix of those 10 to 20 minutes of PIV and those other (varying amounts of time) of peripheral activities, so usually occupy 45 minutes to a couple of hours, depending on how you want to count the cooling-down "afterglow" period.

Many of our sessions end with us lying (in the afterglow) in a position that allows each of us to be completely relaxed with my penis still inside her vagina and neither of us moving much - just enjoying that connection. We can even fall asleep joined in that manner.

Sometimes I avoid sex because I know we don't have time to devote the 30 to 120 minutes that a "proper" sex session deserves. "Quickies" are not part of our repertoire now. (I am not sure how she feels about that omission. I have a lifetime of experiences telling me that leaving my lover wet with cum, none of which is her own, is just impolite, sexually speaking.) Kind of like revving up a 500 horsepower drag racing engine, dumping the clutch and finding the drive shaft was snapped. Anti-climax to the max. I will be talking to her about whether to add “quickies” to our palette of activities in the near future. But I tend to be a perfectionist, so do not miss them - I LIKE to hear her cum, long, loud and wet.

So, we have less sex than she would want, but better than either of us has ever had. No quickies, (the denigratable "Wham-bam, thank you, ma'am.") and fewer deep sessions than we would like.

Tell me your stories, please.

P.S. That post-coital relaxed position I mentioned above can be described as: I am on my side, roughly perpendicular to the bed centerline. She is on her back. parallel with the bed centerline, with one leg draped over my waist, putting our genitals close together. With me on my side, my up-side leg goes up between her legs, my thigh and knee resting on her belly. Her other leg draped over my down-side leg. She may or may not have a wedge under her hips, which improves the angle of penetration.
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dtwarren1942
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Re: Before and after:

Postby dtwarren1942 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:13 pm

I am diabetic (25 years) and my ED emerged over a period of several years. First I had reduced hardness which I could improve with standard sex shop cock rings. My endocrinologist then provided me with 25 mg Viagra which worked well for about 2 years and then I had to increase the dose over the next two years until 100 mg could not get the job done.

My next move was to a VED which worked well but I wasn’t satisfied with the loss of sensitivity and need to remove the constriction after only 20 minutes. I then moved on to Trimix injections (15 units) which worked well for another two years and then I had to increase the dose and strength over two years until 75 units of triple strength could not get the job done.

I am now back to the VED and have to make do with a 20 minute erection and limited orgasms. On the positive side, Pumping has significantly increased my girth.
Age 81
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Pumping
Started Trimix injections 8/'11

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Re: Before and after:

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:36 pm

dtwarren1942 wrote:I am diabetic (25 years) and my ED emerged over a period of several years. First I had reduced hardness which I could improve with standard sex shop cock rings. My endocrinologist then provided me with 25 mg Viagra which worked well for about 2 years and then I had to increase the dose over the next two years until 100 mg could not get the job done.

My next move was to a VED which worked well but I wasn’t satisfied with the loss of sensitivity and need to remove the constriction after only 20 minutes. I then moved on to Trimix injections (15 units) which worked well for another two years and then I had to increase the dose and strength over two years until 75 units of triple strength could not get the job done.

I am now back to the VED and have to make do with a 20 minute erection and limited orgasms. On the positive side, Pumping has significantly increased my girth.

Thanks for the reply, dtwarren1942. I wonder how this affects your partner, how she deals with it and how you deal with having a time limit on your activities.

I tried a VED with constriction ring twice. Once, my lover ALMOST had an orgasm. Both times she became alarmed at how purple my penis became. I am very glad I was able to dispense with that (except for pre-implant restorative and preparatory stretching protocols that involved no constriction ring).
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dtwarren1942
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Re: Before and after:

Postby dtwarren1942 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:21 pm

My wife has not been turned off by my constricted erection. She likes the increased girth and the hardness. We enjoy penetration in the spoon position while I massage her back 4 or 5 days a week, with one session involving oral until she orgasms and then missionary while she orgasms again and I orgasm 1 out of three attempts.

It is now a fairly set routine that we both enjoy.
Age 81
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Started Trimix injections 8/'11

Lost Sheep
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Re: Before and after:

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:46 pm

Thanks, DT Warren's 46

Part of my experience with premature ejaculation was to always try to follow the dictum, "ladies cum first". Summer Miley and I usually start with some massage foreplay followed by cunnilingus until she has a few orgasms to produce vaginal enough vaginal discharge that any positions we would like to try will have enough lubrication to be comfortable.

At that point, we have been trying different positions we have found on the internet designed to produce orgasms for her

After that, some more familiar, tried-and-true positions or just basking in the Afterglow.

That is our current routine. But I am trying to think of ways to change it up so that we do not get bored
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter


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