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I know this makes no sense, but I am glad you are o.k. even though you still are not o.k. . I understand where you are coming from. I have been to the emergency room (9 hours a trip) and spent 6 of the last 15 days in hospital just over pain. So far the only treatment I have been provided was 1 morphine shot and a bottle of muscle relaxers and a few injected muscle relaxers, all of which did no good. Had to leave my truck at the hospital twice and was sent home in a taxi. I went through most surgeries w/o pain meds. Sat in the floor and cried after the prostatectomy w/o pain med but there are points things get beyond what we can take. The cost is insane too. Got the bill yesterday for the emergency room trip they gave me the morphine shot. $10,922.90. The world gone insane is going to drive the rest of us nuts. Wishing you the very best and hope you come out of this in better light. Cheers and a hug.

alibaba wrote:I know this makes no sense, but I am glad you are o.k. even though you still are not o.k. . I understand where you are coming from. I have been to the emergency room (9 hours a trip) and spent 6 of the last 15 days in hospital just over pain. So far the only treatment I have been provided was 1 morphine shot and a bottle of muscle relaxers and a few injected muscle relaxers, all of which did no good. Had to leave my truck at the hospital twice and was sent home in a taxi. I went through most surgeries w/o pain meds. Sat in the floor and cried after the prostatectomy w/o pain med but there are points things get beyond what we can take. The cost is insane too. Got the bill yesterday for the emergency room trip they gave me the morphine shot. $10,922.90. The world gone insane is going to drive the rest of us nuts. Wishing you the very best and hope you come out of this in better light. Cheers and a hug.

WOW $11,000... what do you guys do with those? Do they really expect you to pay that much? When I had the first of my botched surgeries, I was catheterized for a month... Hurt like heck. I was frequently at the hospital ER dept. because the stupid, painful, pain in the butt, was in so long.. Mostly, they would call my wife to come and get me... and my widdle piderman lunch box and den I wanna potsickle… Treat you like a little kid. I know how to flush it and I did multiple but there is NOTHING in the world more painful than a full, blocked catheter. The doctors take this pretty seriously.

Larry

Larry, there is no control on the cost of health care in the United States. Congress and the Senate a few years ago made it ILLEGAL for the government to negotiate prices for Medicare, Medicaid,and Tri Care, the veterans health care system to maintain corporate healthcare profits. It is insane. Reviewing my bills this month, I noticed the hospital charging $25 for each 5cc syringe of saline to flush a line. I can buy it for $2.50. They charged $275 for each bag of simple saline. I asked my doctor what he thought they might charge for it. He told me probably double what he pays for the infusion kit so maybe $8. It is retail for profit medicine down here. The web site shows my Opdivo infusion treatment runs $2600 per dose, same price as Keytruda. 3 doses a month are running a $61,000 bill which the hospital tells me is the reduced negotiated price by the insurance company. So far this month, all total, I have had over $100,000 in medical bills and I am in good shape with no surgeries. The republicans attached to the Affordable Care act as a way of allowing it to pass, a guaranteed profit percent on insurance. The more money the insurance pays the more profit they make. No incentive to reduce costs despite the constant denials. 10% profit on a million is $100,000. 10% profit on 20 million is $2,000,000. This make sense. There is a doctor down the road from us who makes so much money billing the gov't for lasik surgery that not only did he just build multi million $ mansion, he has bought 10 thousand acres of high value investment property around us and 2 more states. He basically owns the 2 roads adjoining ours now. It is insane. I can buy my HIV meds from India or Costa Rica if not seized in the mail by customs or the postal service for as little as $300 a year or my insurance pays for it here at a cost of $9,000 a month and I pay $42. co-pay. Easy to see when examined why the U.S. has the highest healthcare in the world and the highest number of bankruptcies due to health cost. After lunch, I am heading to the bank to sign a note that is ready for $28,xxx loan for my share of health care costs which brings my debt up to $72,000 for medical care now. Over the past decade, I have sold 2 farms and 1 house to pay for medical care. I have 5 years to pay it off at 6 1/5%. Stressful.

Top bill was from the night I laid in the ER for 9 hours and they sent me home in a taxi after a morphine shot for pain. Second bill was 1 month of Opdivo I.V. injection. 3 injections, 2 weeks apart that take about 1 hour 20 minutes each. Sorry for the hijack on health care costs. Maybe this should be split off in another thread.

Dammit, Ali, that's horrible.
How bout once a year you come to my house, and I'll take you to Algodones, Mexico where they sell most meds.

I can't see anything changing in the US about healthcare.
I think many people show up in ERs and don't pay or don't have to pay.
Everyone else pays way more.

tomas1, I have seriously considered doing something like that for years. Some tell me they are limited to carrying in a 30 day supply, some say 90 days worth. My passport application has been laying on my desk for 9 years while I contemplate. If something is not done in this country, some of us will be FORCED to do drastic things. Cialis in India, China, Russia, Barbados, Germany, $1.35 a pill. U.S. $67.33 though I did see a sign the other day for generic at $15 despite my pharmacy telling me the real deal and the generic were the same price.

Ali, if it happens, I could probably also get the same amount.
I guess it would need to be researched.
Lots of snowbirds go there each year.

This - https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/01 ... ry-scheme/ - might have something to do with the crisis in the US...

Hunchback, All the sales reps I see pushing drugs to doctors look like Hookers in a business suite, Of corse short skirt with a very nice ass and blouse open to show nice tits. I have a very well paid friend that is a sales rep. 29yrs old, 5'6'' and built like a brick shithouse. She makes an old man drool.

tomas1 wrote:Dammit, Ali, that's horrible.
How bout once a year you come to my house, and I'll take you to Algodones, Mexico where they sell most meds.

I can't see anything changing in the US about healthcare.
I think many people show up in ERs and don't pay or don't have to pay.
Everyone else pays way more.

So crrect my x wife goes to er just for pain meds her mother wears 2 pain patches