Testosterone treatment

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SteveSW
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby SteveSW » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:47 pm

My T levels 317 a few days ago, are deemed "within the normal range" by my GP. What I'm asking is, at what point will he prescribe treatment? I have all the symptoms ranging from depression to weight gain to little interest in sex and fatigue. He is refusing to do treatment saying the risks are too high, saying the testosterone causes cancer, and a host of other side effects. Do I seek out a urologist (specialist) and fight the standard of having low 300's being acceptable? I feel like shit, and have for a long while. Thanks for any input guys.
Steve
64 with 15 years of chronic Peyronie's which caused ED, that of late is has gotten worse. Hoping to get a pump in 2019, in spite of large dorsal plaque mass. Live in Albuquerque, New Mexico USA.

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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby hryqwert » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:36 pm

You might want to read some research articles and get a second opinion. Research hands shown that Testosterone replacement does not increase the risk of cancer unless a man already has acute prostate cancer when the therapy starts. One 2016 study showed this:
https://nyulangone.org/press-releases/t ... y-suggests

The outcome recommendation was that “Overall, our study suggests that what is best for men’s health is to keep testosterone levels balanced and within a normal range,” says Loeb, who suggests that men with testosterone levels below 350 nanograms per deciliter and symptoms should seek medical advice about whether they should consider testosterone therapy.

The key is to make sure your screened for prostate cancer prior to starting, get a good overall hormone level including sex hormones besides Testosterone, and have your doctor monitor the therapy and T levels.

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SteveSW
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby SteveSW » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:44 pm

Thanks hryqwert, My prostate checks came back AOK. Maybe I'll seek out more expert advice/care. My GP was so off-hand about my concerns and symptoms. I've not had any hormone levels other than T checked. Steve
64 with 15 years of chronic Peyronie's which caused ED, that of late is has gotten worse. Hoping to get a pump in 2019, in spite of large dorsal plaque mass. Live in Albuquerque, New Mexico USA.

dg_moore
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby dg_moore » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:39 am

My T was low and I successfully raised it with treatment. But other than achieving a normal T level I experienced no benefit or effect of any kind.
Dave, 75, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
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tomas1
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby tomas1 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:45 am

I asked my urologist if T could cause prostate cancer.
He said it wouldn't, but if I had cancer it would "feed" it.
For that reason, he continually (6 monthly) monitors my PSA level and does the digital check as well.

Before starting the T, I was feeling rundown but don't recall my T level.
After starting, I perked up and got pretty horny. I also think I got a bit stronger.
80 years
No real problems except treating for HBP and Cholesterol.
Also have BPH.
Looks like I'm heading for an implant.

DaveKell
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby DaveKell » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:58 pm

SteveSW wrote:My T levels 317 a few days ago, are deemed "within the normal range" by my GP. What I'm asking is, at what point will he prescribe treatment? I have all the symptoms ranging from depression to weight gain to little interest in sex and fatigue. He is refusing to do treatment saying the risks are too high, saying the testosterone causes cancer, and a host of other side effects. Do I seek out a urologist (specialist) and fight the standard of having low 300's being acceptable? I feel like shit, and have for a long while. Thanks for any input guys.
Steve


Over the course of about 3 years my primary care doc and I found that when my T level is in the mid 800's range is where I function best. Anything substantially less and I crash as far as any benefits of the therapy go. In the 800's range I have tons of motivation, energy and sex drive. I was just at my doc's office awhile ago to get a lab order because my level got up to around 1300 last time and the doc cut the dosage in half. Over 3 months I know I am very low now since reclined on the couch is my most time consuming activity now. Going for the blood draw on Friday and looking forward to having the dose increased again. Over the course of my therapy of weekly self injecting I've noticed some ball shrinkage. What do I care? I had a vasectomy years ago so they serve no purpose to me anyway. I noticed right away after the vasectomy my cum was more of a clear liquid instead of the whiteness it had before. However, I read that sperm accounted for just 3% of the volume of ejaculate so I just rolled with it. Miss those white puddles though!
Became DaveKell 2.0 on July 18th with Dr. Allen Morey in Dallas, TX. AMS 700 CX implant. 18cm with 5.5 RTE's.

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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby bldoink » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:24 pm

I went to the urologist yesterday for my normal 6 month checkup. My PSA again came back essentially "0" and that's 7 years after my RRP. However, he asked me to make sure I wasn't taking testosterone shots. He reiterated that as my cancer had been in the margins I was to never do the testosterone shots. I understand that his policy is not universal but he sure holds to that policy. He about freaked when he had previously found that my GP had put me on shots a couple of years ago. They did make me feel a bit better. I don't remember my T score but it does tend to be way in the bottom of the tank.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville by Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing but damaged. V.E.D, Viagra and Alprostadil manually injected. Originally Edex20. Switched to Alprostadil from compounding pharmacy - cost. Injecting 5-6 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby FishingTime67 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:28 pm

bldoink wrote:I went to the urologist yesterday for my normal 6 month checkup. My PSA again came back essentially "0" and that's 7 years after my RRP. However, he asked me to make sure I wasn't taking testosterone shots. He reiterated that as my cancer had been in the margins I was to never do the testosterone shots. I understand that his policy is not universal but he sure holds to that policy. He about freaked when he had previously found that my GP had put me on shots a couple of years ago. They did make me feel a bit better. I don't remember my T score but it does tend to be way in the bottom of the tank.


Congrats on your 0 number!!!
I'm 51 new implant in Jan. 2018 with Titan one 24 cm no RTE,had issues with tubbing and fluid gathered around reservoir which cause deflation issues. Tubbing got kinked. Had total replacement with AMS CX 24cm 3rtes
Size 7 in. girth 6 erect

ETGuy71
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby ETGuy71 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:55 pm

Just wondering about something I read. I do the pellets, but I read that using any kind of T replacement caused testicles to shrink! Now I’m feeling my balls to see if it happens.
Has anyone else heard about this?
69 yrs old. New onset of venous leak. Heading towards implant. Researching to be educated on this process.

FishingTime67
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Re: Testosterone treatment

Postby FishingTime67 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:35 pm

ETGuy71 wrote:Just wondering about something I read. I do the pellets, but I read that using any kind of T replacement caused testicles to shrink! Now I’m feeling my balls to see if it happens.
Has anyone else heard about this?



It's true they will shrink... the body has no need to process it cause of therapy..
Not sure on time frame of shrinkage.
I'm 51 new implant in Jan. 2018 with Titan one 24 cm no RTE,had issues with tubbing and fluid gathered around reservoir which cause deflation issues. Tubbing got kinked. Had total replacement with AMS CX 24cm 3rtes
Size 7 in. girth 6 erect


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