Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

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Way out west
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Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Way out west » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:20 am

Hi, I'm a fit and active 39-year-old and have had ED, since my mid-20s. I'm pretty certain that I have a venous leak, which a couple of urologists have also thought might be the case. I've not had a Doppler Ultrasound test done, as I've heard that the results aren't that reliable, that the results can yield false positives, and that there's actually no benchmark to measure things against. I'm all ears, so if anyone knows any different, please let me know.

My main question is that I could go down the route of shockwave therapy and I'm very tempted, but can it help with venous leakage?

Fran4524
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Fran4524 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:25 am

The shockwave therapy increase de inflow, but it doesn’t decrease the outflow (venous leak) so the shock wave only works with the arterial insuficency…
-1993
-Erection problems since 4 years
-I did jelqs and it is posible I injuried, but I hace to say that ED episodes began before I did jelq.
-Having sex with 30mg of tadalafilo

Benjohn
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Benjohn » Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:04 pm

What's the science behind shockwave therapy? How does it improve arterial inflow?

I've had two Doppler ultrasounds that both indicated no venous leak. Interested to know more.
British, 32 yrs old. ED caused by Paraphimosis in 2019. 100mg Sildenafil for sex. Trialled Invicorp as advised by doctor in 2021 but it was too strong. Taking 50mg-75mg of Sildenafil every night at 3am to stimulate morning erections, good response so far.

Fran4524
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Fran4524 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:33 pm

The shockwave therapy stimulates the blood vesel multiplicating it. The result is that the blood inflow increase.
-1993
-Erection problems since 4 years
-I did jelqs and it is posible I injuried, but I hace to say that ED episodes began before I did jelq.
-Having sex with 30mg of tadalafilo

Mark74
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Mark74 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:39 pm

Doppler ultrasounds are considered the best diagnostic tool for erectile dysfunction. I'm not saying they are perfect, but there must be a reason all the top sexual health urologists use them.

Shockwave, on the other hand, is highly speculative. Some people on this board say it has helped and others claim it has damaged them.

I have significant venous leak (as established by doppler ultrasound) and the only things that seemed to have helped me at all are periods of semen retention and switching from masturbating with my hands to masturbating with a vibrator on the glans and frenulum. If my penis continues to get a little stronger I will switch to a fleshlight with a lot of lube.

My experience is subjective

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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Simbarn » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:05 pm

Fran4524 wrote:The shockwave therapy increase de inflow, but it doesn’t decrease the outflow (venous leak) so the shock wave only works with the arterial insuficency…

This is not entirely correct. If the treatment was to work (I am not saying it does) and the function of the corpus cavernosum is improved so that is its ability to expand fully increases to enable a better seal at the tunica, then outflow will be decreased to the point whereby a stronger erection occurs.
Improving arterial inflow can help the CC to expand at a faster rate. Some forms of CVOD are caused by arterial blockage or smooth muscle loss in these tissues.
Age 57, ED issues for 15-20 years. Testosterone replacement with Enanthate and Ovidrel. Currently using generic Tadalafil 2.5mgs and Resveratrol daily.

68CatFan
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby 68CatFan » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:38 pm

I've had two rounds of shockwave therapy at two different clinics and all it did was lighten my wallet. Haven't seen very many men here and on other forums say it worked for them.
Fifty-one years old. ED started at age forty. I took Cialis for eight years and used Trimix for almost three. Implanted 12/6/22 by Dr. Jonathan Clavell. AMS 700CX 21cm.

Way out west
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Way out west » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:51 am

68CatFan wrote:I've had two rounds of shockwave therapy at two different clinics and all it did was lighten my wallet. Haven't seen very many men here and on other forums say it worked for them.

Interesting, I've got a Pheonix Shockwave device, which I bought early on and got for a very good price, although I must admit that having used it a fair amount, I've not noticed any improvements. I did wonder whether professional equipment was more powerful than the Pheonix, despite the manufacturers of the Pheonix claiming that it has the 'same energy signature' as professional equipment, whatever that means!

Way out west
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby Way out west » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:52 am

Mark74 wrote:Doppler ultrasounds are considered the best diagnostic tool for erectile dysfunction. I'm not saying they are perfect, but there must be a reason all the top sexual health urologists use them.

Shockwave, on the other hand, is highly speculative. Some people on this board say it has helped and others claim it has damaged them.

I have significant venous leak (as established by doppler ultrasound) and the only things that seemed to have helped me at all are periods of semen retention and switching from masturbating with my hands to masturbating with a vibrator on the glans and frenulum. If my penis continues to get a little stronger I will switch to a fleshlight with a lot of lube.

My experience is subjective

Thanks, it does sound like a Doppler test might be worthwhile. How do you manage your venous leak during sex?

barrosa
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Re: Can focused shockwave therapy help with venous leakage?

Postby barrosa » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:23 pm

I lost 2k with that.

It didnt work.

Dont waste money!
32 years old. ED all of my life alleged by venous leak.
Surgery 05 Feb 2020 by Dr Roselló (Spain)
Titan Touch 20 cm + 1,5 cm RTE
Absolutely satisfied


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