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Question to experts in V L

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:50 am
by Trust-Jesus
Hi there
As explained in previous post I decided to fight against ED after few years of suffering and struggling with this nightmare .

I will build up my own curing plan supported by hope in god and in my self.

Before to start and before even to make the needed medical tests I need to provide some details in regards of my issue and need your sincere feedback . According to the symptoms I'm going to provide so I have a V L or not ??,

1-no morning wood but blood would go and fill my pens in the morning without hardiness . It become big and heavy but no hardiness.

2-when I get aroused I feel it start to erect and it become like 70% hard . Just few seconds later I loose my erection.

3-now this is important : when I isolate my self in the bathroom by example and start masturbation with olive oil it start to erect and would reach around 80 up to 90% hardiness ... I should keep physical stimulation but without reaching orgasm and by doing this I would keep it erected for a very long periods of time (( sometimes I would reach 30 minutes or more )) ... it happens that in some intervals I fall to 70% but for few seconds before getting back to the 90% state .....

4-by stopping physical stimulation I lose my erection in just 3 . 4 seconds ...

5-by keep,doing this exercise on daily basis besides kegel . Sports . Healthy food I was able to start having random erections with moderate hardiness .unfortunately I stopped after only 2 weeks.

So now and according to the above . Would you please tell me about your opinion ?? Is that a V L situation or not ?? If yes . Is it severe ?? Curable ???

Waiting for your answers
Thanks a lot and God bless you all.

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:10 am
by Larry10625
Trust-Jesus wrote:Hi there
As explained in previous post I decided to fight against ED after few years of suffering and struggling with this nightmare .

I will build up my own curing plan supported by hope in god and in my self.

Before to start and before even to make the needed medical tests I need to provide some details in regards of my issue and need your sincere feedback . According to the symptoms I'm going to provide so I have a V L or not ??,

1-no morning wood but blood would go and fill my pens in the morning without hardiness . It become big and heavy but no hardiness.

2-when I get aroused I feel it start to erect and it become like 70% hard . Just few seconds later I loose my erection.

3-now this is important : when I isolate my self in the bathroom by example and start masturbation with olive oil it start to erect and would reach around 80 up to 90% hardiness ... I should keep physical stimulation but without reaching orgasm and by doing this I would keep it erected for a very long periods of time (( sometimes I would reach 30 minutes or more )) ... it happens that in some intervals I fall to 70% but for few seconds before getting back to the 90% state .....

4-by stopping physical stimulation I lose my erection in just 3 . 4 seconds ...

5-by keep,doing this exercise on daily basis besides kegel . Sports . Healthy food I was able to start having random erections with moderate hardiness .unfortunately I stopped after only 2 weeks.

So now and according to the above . Would you please tell me about your opinion ?? Is that a V L situation or not ?? If yes . Is it severe ?? Curable ???

Waiting for your answers
Thanks a lot and God bless you all.



Personally I think you are right. Although I am not a doctor, I am a paramedic with some education in the venous system. So, let me explain why I came to the conclusion that it is a VL. An erection is gained by blood flow into the tissue of the penis. Now Viagra and Cialis assist with blood flow. When you masturbate, you are pumping the blood in and by holding your dick tightly, you are preventing the blood from draining but, when you let go, there is nothing keeping the blood there and it drains. Hope this helps. :)

Larry

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:46 am
by Trust-Jesus
Thanks Larry but I don't tightly hold my pens at all.

I masturbate gently trying to avoid orgasm (point of no return )

As mush as I can maturbate without reaching orgasm I can stay erected and I can stay like that for 30 minutes or more with very good erection hard enough to penetrate.

Just when I stop stimulation my erection fades in few seconds 3 or 4

What do you think ??

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:45 am
by Larry10625
Trust-Jesus wrote:Thanks Larry but I don't tightly hold my pens at all.

I masturbate gently trying to avoid orgasm (point of no return )

As mush as I can maturbate without reaching orgasm I can stay erected and I can stay like that for 30 minutes or more with very good erection hard enough to penetrate.

Just when I stop stimulation my erection fades in few seconds 3 or 4

What do you think ??



Some vessels do not require a lot of pressure... also, the location of where you are grabbing might play a role. You say that when you stop manual stimulation you go limp in a few seconds... that supports what I am saying.

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:16 pm
by Nester79
Have you tried PDE5 inhibitors like viagra or cialis?

You and I are the same age and I am having the same symptoms as you starting a few weeks ago.

I had this happen to me 10 years ago and it went away after using viagra for a month or so. So I felt it was just psychological.

I was doing fine having great sex until a few weeks ago when it got soft after a late night sex session (drinking and dancing until midnight). Since then it's stopped working so I'm thinking it's psychological again.

If I am aroused and take 40-60 mg of sildenafil, it will stay erect even when standing.

Give it a try?

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:44 pm
by Trust-Jesus
Thank you Nester . You gave me some hope
I will try a minimal PDE5 inhibitor for one month to see if this would fix my issue.

In addition to the above I will use vitamins K2 for arterial health.. citrolline . Pegnocenol . Omega 3. Garlic oil . multi vitamins and minerals supplement including zinc. Royal gelly ....

@Larry : if the veins are leaking then why when I keep stimulation my penis is able to trape the blood inside ??? What is the relation between stimulation and venous leak??? Sometimes when I think about extreme sexual fantasies while stimulating my erection goes above the rough .... but why ??? Is it related to our minds ??? Sure there a physical reason but I believe that our minds play a very big role specially with people like me who addicted to porn websites for years

I think sex is not able to stimulate my mind enough Like it was before ; during school days.

I believe that I must stop watching and thinking of porn for months

I don't know but day by day I feel like venous leak is just an illusion ....

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:43 pm
by ED2013
It does sound like venous leak to me. As mentioned before, try pills. They are always the first treatment. Your symptoms don’t sound too bad, so I’m sure the pills will help a lot.

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:05 am
by Larry10625
Trust-Jesus wrote:Thank you Nester . You gave me some hope
I will try a minimal PDE5 inhibitor for one month to see if this would fix my issue.

In addition to the above I will use vitamins K2 for arterial health.. citrolline . Pegnocenol . Omega 3. Garlic oil . multi vitamins and minerals supplement including zinc. Royal gelly ....

@Larry : if the veins are leaking then why when I keep stimulation my penis is able to trape the blood inside ??? What is the relation between stimulation and venous leak??? Sometimes when I think about extreme sexual fantasies while stimulating my erection goes above the rough .... but why ??? Is it related to our minds ??? Sure there a physical reason but I believe that our minds play a very big role specially with people like me who addicted to porn websites for years

I think sex is not able to stimulate my mind enough Like it was before ; during school days.

I believe that I must stop watching and thinking of porn for months

I don't know but day by day I feel like venous leak is just an illusion ....



A few things;
As you get hard I believe that some parts that drain the blood start to constrict and even mild pressure stops the blood flow from draining. This would explain why, when you masturbate it stays hard (mostly)
Because you watch porn, masturbate, etc (maybe a lot) it is possible that you are desensitizing yourself. I use to watch a lot of porn. The other day I was masturbating and after 60 minutes I gave up because nothing was happening.. Go see a doctor :(

Larry

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:00 pm
by Trust-Jesus
Yesssssss Larry. ,yesss.... I believe this is a big contributing factor
desensitizing my penis due to lotof masturbation....

I will go and consult a doctor very soon. I heard that stop thinking about porn for weeks and sometime for months would be an added value to any E D curing plan for people like me with porn Diction issues.

Again thank you Larry for the valuable comment

Will keep you posted .

Karim

Re: Question to experts in V L

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:09 pm
by naginati
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