Venous leak: some information

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Re: Venous leak: some information

Postby naginati » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:02 pm

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Re: Venous leak: some information

Postby Fanouris » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 am

Everything that you write it's the same I have the Ed started at 22 I am 24 now but I look a lot order also because of the elastin as u say I just did a vein surgery in the leg cause my veins was very big....
What should I do now I don't know...
25years old with lifetime venous leak but now and 3years starting to getting worse and I am looking to make an implant in Germany or Austria

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Re: Venous leak: some information

Postby Larry10625 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:02 am

Fanouris wrote:Everything that you write it's the same I have the Ed started at 22 I am 24 now but I look a lot order also because of the elastin as u say I just did a vein surgery in the leg cause my veins was very big....
What should I do now I don't know...



Talk to your family doctor and see if there is a high implant surgeon there. If there is, ask your doctor to refer you to him (or her) and go from there. :)

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Re: Venous leak: some information

Postby Ricardo71 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:43 am

Depressed wrote:Hi guys,

I'm 30 and venous leak has been eating me alive since age 22. Since the begin of this sh*t I have been researching a lot. At age of 25 I've managed to get a job in a pharmaceutical company and could read some dossiers about venous leak. Well, the problem of doctors is that they are unaware of it. This illnes exists.

Some important information:

1 when you think you suffer from venous leak the first thing to do is to go to doctor and see if you have a varicocele. The doctor can provide a diagnosis with Valsalva maneuver ad even better with scrotal ultrasound.

2 if you don't have varicocele (or even if you have it) look at the veins on your leg (especially those behind the knee or in the internal side of your feet). Probably you will notice varicous veins, or blue veins, or a lot of superficial violet capillars (this is not the rule, but there is a good probability you have them if you are suffering from venous leak)

3 you could also develop (maybe later in time) Hemorrhoids

4 look at the legs of your mother (or father) and those of your grandparents. If you have venous leak, surely one of them suffers from varicose veins.

Why do you have to check for this signs? Because venous leak is not just an illnes of the penis, venous leak is a general venogenic disorder of the body. There are really few doctors who can do this association. The vast majority of them says: "you are too young, it's all in your head". Bullsh*t.

Well, why do I say that it is a general venogenic disorder of the body: according to the dossiers I've read there is a general "genetic" problem in patient with venous leak. Normally patients with venous leak develop this problem when they are 20 years old (some patients are born with venous leak mostly because of defective valves, some develop it when they are 30). But why the vast majority develops it at 20-22? Because that's the point in time when your body stops producing elastin and you have to live your entire life with the reservoir of elastin you have produced until 20 years old (Elastin is a highly elastic protein in connective tissue and allows many tissues in the body to resume their shape after stretching or contracting). When you have venogenic disease the elastin in the veins starts to be destroyed and replaced with collagen (that is less elastic). This is like a sort of accelerating ageing. Some studies shows that transforming growth factor-B plays an important role in this damaging process of veins wall. Bad news is that elastin is of vital importance for the tunica albuginea. As venogenic patients have a general "elastin-collagen building disorder" the tunica albuginea will be attacked too. I'm not talking about peyronies plaque or so on. The less elastic tunica albuginea will suffer from subluxation and floppiness, and is going to have difficulties in compressing the sub-tunical and emissary veins of the penis. Moreover these veins are already altered in their structure because of the general venogenic disease. So this 2 factors together produce a venous leak.
In Peyronyie's disease occurs something similar in the tunica albuginea, but instead of subluxation and floppiness we can assist to the building of scar tissue/scar nodules in the tunica albuginea, which cause the penis to bend. Anyway scar tissue, or subluxation, or floppiness of the tunica have the same results: non-compliance of the tunica albuginea that causes venous leak.

What is the solutions? Well first of all the government should not allow Men or Women with venous disease to have children. Maybe this sounds crazy and kind of dictatorial regime, but no young man should suffer this sh*t and go through years of hell. The second solution could probably come from gene therapy, that should stop and reverse this "elastin-collagen building disorder".

Sorry if I made some grammar mistakes, I'm not a native speaker. I hope it was useful.

Regards



Hello!...first of all excuse my bad English. I know very little English and I am translating with google translate.

I was very interested in your answer. Although in my case I think something different happened to me. I have venous leakage approximately from 17-18 years of age. Now I am 48. With viagra, cialis, etc. I have correct erections. At least, I have that luck. Still, my sex life has been a big shit.

Like you, after reading many scientific articles recently, I came to the conclusion that my venous leakage problem was due to the loss of elasticity in the tunica albuginea. The structure of my tunic albúginea was damaged .... about that age of 17-18 years, I had the habit of masturbating in the shower with very hot water (too hot) and I once burned at the base of the penis with the penis in erection. The breaking temperature of the collagen structure is relatively low. The damage to the base of the penis are the most affecting in the mechanism of venous occlusion and I think that was my case. I can have a genetic basis also as you comment and a certain tendency to this problem, but after a lot of thinking, the appearance of my venous leakage problems coincide in time with this fact. I would like to know your opinion about it. Thank you very much for your analysis.

Richard

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Re: Venous leak: some information

Postby Ricardo71 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:47 am

Hello!...first of all excuse my bad English. I know very little English and I am translating with google translate.

I was very interested in your answer. Although in my case I think something different happened to me. I have venous leakage approximately from 17-18 years of age. Now I am 48. With viagra, cialis, etc. I have correct erections. At least, I have that luck. Still, my sex life has been a big shit.

Like you, after reading many scientific articles recently, I came to the conclusion that my venous leakage problem was due to the loss of elasticity in the tunica albuginea. The structure of my tunic albúginea was damaged .... about that age of 17-18 years, I had the habit of masturbating in the shower with very hot water (too hot) and I once burned at the base of the penis with the penis in erection. The breaking temperature of the collagen structure is relatively low. The damage to the base of the penis are the most affecting in the mechanism of venous occlusion and I think that was my case. I can have a genetic basis also as you comment and a certain tendency to this problem, but after a lot of thinking, the appearance of my venous leakage problems coincide in time with this fact. I would like to know your opinion about it. Thank you very much for your analysis.

Richard

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Re: Venous leak: some information

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:06 pm

Depressed wrote:What is the solutions? Well first of all the government should not allow Men or Women with venous disease to have children. Maybe this sounds crazy and kind of dictatorial regime, but no young man should suffer this sh*t and go through years of hell.

This sounds like using a blunt instrument to solve a problem without knowing for sure if it is necessary or even if it will work.

While I would not want any son of mine to suffer E.D., I certainly would not want ANY government bureaucrat imposing reproductive decisions on me and my wife. (I am not married, but the principle applies nonetheless.) This sounds disturbingly close to eugenics.

Respectfully submitted (in the hopes that this single paragraph was simply not thought through and reflection on my post might have an effect on the author and any readers).
Lost Sheep
Born 1948 AMS LGX 18+3 implant Nov 6, 2017 by Dr Tavis Shaw. Spent 14 months researching in effort to optimize outcome. After 30 yrs of progressive unrecognized ED I will do this RIGHT; no second chance with one's first.
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