Cigar56 wrote:AnotherOldMan wrote:If you both want sex, or neither wants sex, everything is fine. It's that middle ground where everything goes south.
Very true! My feeling is that she more or less set the time, place and frequency(with few exceptions) when we were "in our prime". If for any reason she wished to shut
it down at this stage then that is what we would do and I would do my best to make it seem like a mutual decision.
Well, I am 61 and my sex drive seems higher than ever. At this point I would not stop having sex if my wife simply decided to quit. If she did that I would exercise my right to masturbate in private, which of course is a form of sex. Whether that would be enough would be something we'd have to determine.
IMH0 there are a few things that enter into these matters. It can be difficult enough to make any sense of especially when you have limited facts to go on and N0T the whole picture. This is even more true today in a society full of working wives with careers, coming home from work every day tired; who matured in an environment of rabid "Feminisum" .
From my perspection Feminism is where wives have developed the perception that "she"is the one partner that can decide entirely on their own to terminate sex within a marriage when their personal desires wane; without any discussion with her spouse.
Then, the idea of "Romantic Love" is ingrained into us by society as the primary basis to get married; rather than biological sexuality. Even the government entices us into marriage by tax breaks for getting married and evem more for having children.
Religion sets the standard for vilifying premarital sex and encourages marriages.
Single [unmarried ]moms are becoming more and more common.
Generally men tend to get married for commitment, women tend to get married for feelings.
My generation was brought up in families of male dominance and men being the providers. Its not necessarily that way today. Both genders are waiting longer to get married, if they marry at all. We all know about skyrocketing divorce rates and divorce rates of second marriages.
As Anniversaries add up, having children, aging, empty nesting and health issues begin to enter the picture. Women go through menopause and men develope ED.
Below are a couple youtube links that may help enlighten you:
"Why ALL Marriages are Doomed", Why Your Wife Gives Her Best
SEX to the Guy She
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_0rczdj_ngM&t=3222s"Marriage is the End of
SEX", After 40 Her Body is Done.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Med43fs-QNow this guy might not have all the answers, but he may tell you a few things you hadn't considered.
There is a present MGTOW movement [Men Going Their Own Way] that is helping men comprehend women. Paul Elam also has some topics on youtube.
See what you think.