Hi Silverdude, I just happened upon your post. Wow, surprised more did not respond. I wouldn't stay away from the VED and pumps. I use one (with the blue rings, that are the best I've found, although they do have to be replaced about ever 4 to 6 months for best results. In a pinch if your rings are ...

Negative DT, they have many products. Their Thickwalled Cylinders, a separate line on their site, do not have a flange, and even state they are compatible with ED rings. All their products are high quality.

https://www.lapump.com/product/thickwalled-penis-cylinder

Hi Dave, LA Pump has extremely high-quality products. My wife and I have several of their products in our toy chest. https://www.lapump.com/product/thickwal ... s-cylinder

...oh, and another thing. With the blue bands, or any bands I have found, the largest size is the only size that works for me. I find the smaller sizes ridiculously small. And I'm not a "large" hung guy at all. Those little bands I would actually be afraid to even try. My recommendation is...

Hi Steve, For almost a year I have been using this model with excellent results. https://www.erecaidpumps.com/edp-manual-pump-system/ I have used almost every tension brand this outfit sells, and IMO the blue ones furnished with this unit are by far the best. The others work well, but when it comes ...