Length

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postra7777
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Re: Length

Postby postra7777 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:59 pm

I'm just saying that getting an implant should be your last option. Bear in mind that you still have to pump an implant so there is that period of time where you need to excuse yourself to pump up. About the same amount of time it would take to inject yourself. Again, I am not advocating pills or injections, just that the implant was my last option. It's not the same as getting a natural erection. I can say from experience my wife is getting used to the fact that SHE can't make my dick hard that I need to pump it up to do so. With pills and injections, at least there was that moment where she could feel like she was the cause of the erection. Just my 2 cents. Hope I don't offend anyone here, just speaking from my very short time with my implant.
Suffered with ED for most of my life. Viagra then to Trimix then implanted 3/8/2018 with AMX 700 CX 21cm with 1cm RTE. 50 years old Urolift procedure performed 30 day prior to my implant surgery.

antman90
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Re: Length

Postby antman90 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:28 pm

postra7777 wrote:I'm just saying that getting an implant should be your last option. Bear in mind that you still have to pump an implant so there is that period of time where you need to excuse yourself to pump up. About the same amount of time it would take to inject yourself. Again, I am not advocating pills or injections, just that the implant was my last option. It's not the same as getting a natural erection. I can say from experience my wife is getting used to the fact that SHE can't make my dick hard that I need to pump it up to do so. With pills and injections, at least there was that moment where she could feel like she was the cause of the erection. Just my 2 cents. Hope I don't offend anyone here, just speaking from my very short time with my implant.


I see you your point. But if you were in my situation wouldn't you much rather be dating with a penile implant than having to rely on pills or injections? Im assuming it doesnt take long to pump
And you can discreetly do it in the bathroom... with pills you have to plan a lot more. It sucks to
Be in this situation. I find myself contemplating whether to date with pills or just get an implant. Most likely I will need an implant regardless....
27, divorced no kids, ED since as long as I can remember, don't know the cause. Pills work but hate the sides/planning. Leaning towards an implant.

antman90
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Re: Length

Postby antman90 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:30 pm

antman90 wrote:
postra7777 wrote:I'm just saying that getting an implant should be your last option. Bear in mind that you still have to pump an implant so there is that period of time where you need to excuse yourself to pump up. About the same amount of time it would take to inject yourself. Again, I am not advocating pills or injections, just that the implant was my last option. It's not the same as getting a natural erection. I can say from experience my wife is getting used to the fact that SHE can't make my dick hard that I need to pump it up to do so. With pills and injections, at least there was that moment where she could feel like she was the cause of the erection. Just my 2 cents. Hope I don't offend anyone here, just speaking from my very short time with my implant.


I see you your point. But if you were in my situation wouldn't you much rather be dating with a penile implant than having to rely on pills or injections? Im assuming it doesnt take long to pump
And you can discreetly do it in the bathroom... it seems it would be a lot easier to date with an implant...with pills you have to plan a lot more. It sucks to
Be in this situation. I find myself contemplating whether to date with pills or just get an implant. Most likely I will need an implant regardless....I think in a few more months you will be loving your implant a lot more than you do now.
27, divorced no kids, ED since as long as I can remember, don't know the cause. Pills work but hate the sides/planning. Leaning towards an implant.

Lost Sheep
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Re: Length

Postby Lost Sheep » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:09 am

antman90 wrote:
postra7777 wrote:I'm just saying that getting an implant should be your last option. Bear in mind that you still have to pump an implant so there is that period of time where you need to excuse yourself to pump up. About the same amount of time it would take to inject yourself. Again, I am not advocating pills or injections, just that the implant was my last option. It's not the same as getting a natural erection. I can say from experience my wife is getting used to the fact that SHE can't make my dick hard that I need to pump it up to do so. With pills and injections, at least there was that moment where she could feel like she was the cause of the erection. Just my 2 cents. Hope I don't offend anyone here, just speaking from my very short time with my implant.


I see you your point. But if you were in my situation wouldn't you much rather be dating with a penile implant than having to rely on pills or injections? Im assuming it doesnt take long to pump
And you can discreetly do it in the bathroom... with pills you have to plan a lot more. It sucks to
Be in this situation. I find myself contemplating whether to date with pills or just get an implant. Most likely I will need an implant regardless....

There is something in favor of the pills. The fact they are slow-acting to start means that your partner can maintain the illusion of being part of the erection-creation process.

You take the pill. Then foreplay starts. She is there and you are flaccid. She works some magic on your penis and after a while the erection grows. Just like (if maybe slower) as before E.D.

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postra7777
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Re: Length

Postby postra7777 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:37 am

I can 100% say that if the pills or injections worked for me I would not be implanted. I love my implant but miss my wife’s excitement when getting me Aroused, I have some Trimix if you want to try it,
Suffered with ED for most of my life. Viagra then to Trimix then implanted 3/8/2018 with AMX 700 CX 21cm with 1cm RTE. 50 years old Urolift procedure performed 30 day prior to my implant surgery.

Sensei
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Re: Length

Postby Sensei » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:53 am

My problem with pills (when they worked) was that they required an exhaustive amount of staging and timing, which was quite unnatural. More specifically, you have to take the pill on a semi-empty stomach, so if you just ate, you must wait -- close to another hour to take the pill (that's for Viagra, Cialis may be quicker). Next, let another 45-60 minutes elapse and you may be ready. At this point, I personally had to have a glass of wine or two to offset all of the clock watching and the effect on spontaneity.

After that, it might work, assuming your partner is interested. If not, you are stuck with a a flushed face along with a stuffy nose. I guess that is a small price to pay for an erection that ends in intercourse, but given the time lapse, there is no guarantee. For me, the orchestration of these events seemed far from a natural experience.

As strange as it sounds, I actually found shots to be more spontaneous (when they worked). I prepared them in advance, and if the moment looked promising, I could excuse myself to the restroom and inject. I didn't have to worry about how long ago I ate dinner, or waiting for 45-60 minutes.

The injection process is still awkward, but IMHO it worked better than pills and was more natural.

At this point, shots are no longer the holy grail, so I am looking strongly towards an implant.
Married for 35 years, 63 years old, pretty fit. ED advanced in last 20 years. Pills worked initially, and shots were very effective for several years. Developed some PD (35 degrees) and VL within the last 2 years. Implanted 5/30/2018 with a Titan OTR.

antman90
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Re: Length

Postby antman90 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:34 am

Sensei wrote:My problem with pills (when they worked) was that they required an exhaustive amount of staging and timing, which was quite unnatural. More specifically, you have to take the pill on a semi-empty stomach, so if you just ate, you must wait -- close to another hour to take the pill (that's for Viagra, Cialis may be quicker). Next, let another 45-60 minutes elapse and you may be ready. At this point, I personally had to have a glass of wine or two to offset all of the clock watching and the effect on spontaneity.

After that, it might work, assuming your partner is interested. If not, you are stuck with a a flushed face along with a stuffy nose. I guess that is a small price to pay for an erection that ends in intercourse, but given the time lapse, there is no guarantee. For me, the orchestration of these events seemed far from a natural experience.

As strange as it sounds, I actually found shots to be more spontaneous (when they worked). I prepared them in advance, and if the moment looked promising, I could excuse myself to the restroom and inject. I didn't have to worry about how long ago I ate dinner, or waiting for 45-60 minutes.

The injection process is still awkward, but IMHO it worked better than pills and was more natural.

At this point, shots are no longer the holy grail, so I am looking strongly towards an implant.


Sensei I can relate to the whole staging and timing aspect of pills. And if things don't end up with sex your flushed with headache stuffy nose and overall feeling of tiredness that lingers on to the next day. And if you don't have any medication in your system .. you can't have an erection. At least with an implant ... you can have an erection whenever. But from what I'm seeing ... it seems like most implanted guys miss the natural arousal process which gradually leads to an erection.. which can be replicated for the most part with pills.
27, divorced no kids, ED since as long as I can remember, don't know the cause. Pills work but hate the sides/planning. Leaning towards an implant.

Kidantrim
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Re: Length

Postby Kidantrim » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:59 am

I think the closest thing to a natural erection is by using pills, as you need to be sexually aroused for it to work.

With implants and injections, you dont....I dont think there is a world of difference in the 'naturalness' of erections with injections and implants from a partners point of view.

If a partner knew you were sticking needles in your dick before sex I doubt she would feel
great about her authorship of the erection...but it is possible to time it so the medication is kicking in during foreplay if the partner is none the wiser.

The main thing is for implanted guys to get their head around the fact that their new erection is from a device and created without recourse to their erectile tissues and blood flow.

Their are drawbacks to all treatments and the implant should rightly be a last option, but the blinding headaches from regular pill use, to priapism/pain / scarring with injections, to the radical mind/body alteration of an implant, no treatment is a walk in the park for us suffering from significant ED
37 years old. Ed from VL all my life. Natural erections impossible from 25 years onwards. Max strength pills stopped working , vein ligation didnt work. Injections worked great for 6 months before they stopped working. Implanted 4/4/18.

antman90
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Re: Length

Postby antman90 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:02 am

Most guys on here met their wives when they didn't have ED... and then for the most part their wives stuck around through the whole pills/injections/implants process. I keep struggling thinking it would be incredibly hard to meet a women who would be ok with me taking pills just to have sex ... being only 27 years old. They might see me as unfit as a potential long term partner. ED takes a huge toll us not only physically but psychologically as well... and in terms of my psychological well being ... i think an implant would help me much more than pills... because I would feel more potent ...knowing I will never fail. But perhaps I can find a women who will accept me taking pills. I think the hardest decision with all of this is actually making that decision... and without a partner to ask for advice.. it's difficult.
27, divorced no kids, ED since as long as I can remember, don't know the cause. Pills work but hate the sides/planning. Leaning towards an implant.

VinceMH
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Re: Length

Postby VinceMH » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:13 am

antman90 wrote:Most guys on here met their wives when they didn't have ED... and then for the most part their wives stuck around through the whole pills/injections/implants process. I keep struggling thinking it would be incredibly hard to meet a women who would be ok with me taking pills just to have sex ... being only 27 years old.


Don't be so quick to condemn pills or injections. I was starting to feel ED at your age, and freshly divorced. I have been single since then, so have lots of experience working the ED with single women. Viagra came out 10 years after divorce and I was elated! With experience, I got the timing right so she didn't know. If asked afterwards about being flush, I said "you really got my blood pumping" :lol: If the relationship continued, I told about the pills on the third or fourth encounter. By that time she was well aware that I knew what I was doing in bed. NOT ONCE did a woman say they were not interested because I needed pills. Pills lost their effectiveness gradually over the years. Two years ago I was approached at a bar and TOLD we were going to my house. Pills absolutely FAILED and the embarrassment was awful. That led to a Doppler test and at the same time found I had PC. Now without a prostate and years of ED, injections are the only thing that works. I wish I had tried injections 15 years ago! Back to your situation... It's easy to pop a pill and work your girl. If pills work, try not to be so self conscious about telling a partner. If she is interested in YOU, she won't care about a pill. If the pill bothers her, then she's not the right one and you should keep looking. And if you find that special girl, you could experiment with injections. Injections are MUCH better than pills IMHO, when you have an understanding partner. Injections work wonderfully for me, but it doesn't fit my lifestyle. I love to travel and I can't tote an ice chest with trimix while backpacking around the world. If I had a solid partner, I would NOT get the implant. But after 30 years of being single, nobody in sight, retirement 3 years out, and plans for backpacking the world, now is the time for an implant. It was not a tough decision. You are young and have many years to find that long term partner. If you find that special girl, the pills or injections won't matter. It's a big decision, hope this helps.

Vince
59 yrs, single, healthy, active. Progressive ED for 30 years, venous leakage, prostate cancer, RALP June 2017. Trimix works, but doesn't fit the travel lifestyle. Implanted 4/24/2018, Titan 20 + 2 by Dr Wang at MD Anderson.


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