Re: Anyone over 7 inches with implant?
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:18 pm
Not even close....
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merrix wrote:Well, 6.9 is not over 7. But close enough to be of interest as an answer to your question I guess.
Flaccid is about an inch shorter.
And speaking of surgeon gold standard - that debate can and will go on forever. My vote is on Eid. I am sure Kramer is great as well, but it is a fact that during the last 15 months (i.e. my time on FT) there have been three cases (that I can remember) of him leaving his patients with a high pump causing dissatisfaction. During those same last 15 months I have not seen any case here with any issues from Eid. Not scientific conclusion drawing, but one fact-based point in that debate.
Since two of these three cases have been with an AMS (one I don't know which brand) - whether these pump issues are down to Kramer screwing up or the shortcomings with tubing insertion position of AMS - I don't know. But in a way it doesn't matter. The doc is responsible for choosing the implant. So choosing a model resulting in a high pump isn't a valid excuse. If one model is inferior - don't use it. If chosen, no excuses can be made.
merrix wrote:Yes, they both probably have their advantages. But being in one city instead of the other has nothing to do with chances to perfect an implant surgery. And if taking it into consideration it is 100% subjective. I am not from NY. Not from US. But preferred a hundred times to go to a world city like NY rather than Baltimore. It's just pesonal preference.
Same with videotaping. So if a crap doc films his surgery, does it make it any better? No. Again I am ONLY talking about where do you have the best chances to get a perfectly functioning implant.
Even the hospital argument doesn't really matter in that case. It does if you have some condition putting you at risk of needing other special care. But for the average healthy implant patient, all that matters is the chances of that doc to give you a perfect implant surgery.
And using the argument 'I got great service and feedback so he must be best' is seriously not holding very well.
I got fantastic service from Eid. As said he visited me twice in my hotel. Once when I called him at 3 AM. He picked up and came. And once on a sunday. Amazing. But since I haven't used any other doc, I can't use that as an argument he is best. Just that he is great.
I still say the only objective comparison we FT members have is their success rate among us. And during the last 15 months when I have been here, there are three failures from Kramer and none from Eid. As far as I know, but correct me if I missed some case.
So saying 'you can't go wrong with either of them' doesn't hold. Three guys here did go wrong with Kramer. For whatever those three cases are worth. Not everything, but certainly something.
No other comparison comes close in meaning, even though this one is no proof either. Not at all. They both do hundreds per year and the population posting here is too small to use as evidence of their skills.
My only point is that I think there is no facts to back up saying Kramer is better than Eid. The facts pointing the other way are three failures vs zero here lately. But that's not enough to draw conclusions. So I just leave it at saying nobody bere knows who's best. Including myself.
Videos, location, being a nice guy, etc are subjective issues of different values to different people and does not decide if your implant works well and your pump is correctly placed. Only surgical skills do.
I am not saying who's better. Because I don't know. I am just objecting to all others who don't know either but still proclaim the verdict as if it was a fact.
And for that matter, it is quite likely the best one is actually in China. The volume they accumulate is grotesque. The #of cases those docs can draw conclusions from is grotesque. But nobody from US or Europe would go there for other obvious reasons.
alibaba wrote:The Eid vs Kramer debate could go on forever. Both have a skill set and service well above most urologists. A doctor who can fix the fuck-ups of many other urologists are in a class of their own and both show very well they have that extra level of skill. Evidence based. Both spend a considerable amount of time fixing some real screwed up shit work. Both give first class service to you the patient. Both stay in contact. More importantly when choosing, both have respect for the other which again says they are both in the same top tier level of quality. Costs and convenience certainly has to be weighed for those of us who have to be concerned about those matters but the skill set and concern for the patient's outcome must be your foremost concern. I would have been happy with either I think. I consulted with both more than once and was impressed with them both.
alibaba wrote:The Eid vs Kramer debate could go on forever. Both have a skill set and service well above most urologists. A doctor who can fix the fuck-ups of many other urologists are in a class of their own and both show very well they have that extra level of skill. Evidence based. Both spend a considerable amount of time fixing some real screwed up shit work. Both give first class service to you the patient. Both stay in contact. More importantly when choosing, both have respect for the other which again says they are both in the same top tier level of quality. Costs and convenience certainly has to be weighed for those of us who have to be concerned about those matters but the skill set and concern for the patient's outcome must be your foremost concern. I would have been happy with either I think. I consulted with both more than once and was impressed with them both.
merrix wrote: It also crinkles and buckles when deflated..