Titan OTR (or touch.??) operation (True or False)

[Hawkman]

I deflated significantly more tonight than in the past because I maintained pressure on the so-called OTR while I squeezed my penis. I don’t think I squeezed forcefully enough to lock the valve open. I am suspecting the following statements are true but some of these are nuances not mentioned in the Titan training video. If you are confident you fully understand the operation of the OTR please comment on whether all three of these statements are true or any other comments you would like to share..

1 if you press the OTR very forcefully it will lock a one-way valve open to drain the fluid back to the reservoir even when the your hand is removed from the valve

2 If you press the OTR firmly but less forcefully it will open the valve to drain fluid back to the reservoir BUT ONLY WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO DEPRESS IT. IF YOU REMOVE YOUR HAND FROM THE VALVE THE VALVE CLOSES AND ALLOWS NO FLUID TO PASS

3. After deflating an implant it can auto-inflatel unless method 1 is used.

My first clues about this was from reading Merrix’s journal.

[warrenw]

I think you have a Titan Touch, not an OTR. Yes?

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[Hawkman]

I think you have a Titan Touch, not an OTR. Yes

Good grief Warren i guess I am not even sure. I thought the OTR was the newest and that was all Dr. Eid was installing now. .??

The instructions look the same for those two

Mine has a concave dip in one side of the valve and a small raised button on the other side

[warrenw]

I originally thought I had an OTR but Merrix or Alibaba corrected me that I had the Touch. Mine is like yours.

Merrix feels otherwise, but in my experience the deflate button must be held continuously to achieve fully flaccid. Pressing and then releasing the button (One Touch) has never worked for me.

Even if it were truly One Touch (press and release), pressure on the penis is required to return all the saline to the reservoir, it won't just flow there on it's own. The system would probably equalize somewhere around 50% deflation (1/2 the saline in the cylinders and 1/2 in the reservoir).

To prevent auto-inflation I still use two quick short pumps after deflation to set the valve. Maybe that isn't always necessary but it works so I continue to do it that way.

[Hawkman]

I have been depressing the valve hard for a few seconds letting go then squeezing my penis. It felt like it went down but now I think that only the initial high pressure was being drained off when I pressed the button. When I let go and squeezed my penis apparently I was getting no more deflation although it seemed I was. The cylinders developed folds. Tonight however, I held the button and squeezed my penis very firmly at the same time and it actually deflated so much it deformed the penis and I can feel the flat cylinders moving in my penis If I kneed it.

The diagram does not show either the OTR or the touch being held while squeezing the penis. The word “touch” is about the biggest misnomer on the planet. They should almost include a pair of rubber coated pliers to squeeze the thing.

[MyImplant]

I am really confused. My dr said he was using the OTR. When I came to in the recovery room I was given the sample the Coloplast rep left. Based on the above even I believe it is the Touch.. not the QTR.

To add to the confusion i recall reading that the QTR was discontinued and the Touch is the preferred pump If true I am bothered that my own high volume implant dr doesn't know this. Probably I am to blame.. overanalytical.

Oh well. Whatever I have whatever and I accept whatever.

[Hawkman]

I am really confused. My dr said he was using the OTR. When I came to in the recovery room I was given the sample the Coloplast rep left. Based on the above even I believe it is the Touch.. not the QTR.

To add to the confusion i recall reading that the QTR was discontinued and the Touch is the preferred pump If true I am bothered that my own high volume implant dr doesn't know this. Probably I am to blame.. overanalytical.

Like you I could be called over analytical but I don’t think it is over analytical to want to know exactly what kind of equipment is stuffed in your nut sack. Maybe we should even know how it is supposed to work and if it is working as advertised.

Finically one of my first concerns was my pump placement. Every diagram I have ever seen shows the pump bulb down and the release valve on top. Mine is “upside down”. Dr Eid asked me During surgery if I wanted my pump to the rear or the front. I told him to the rear. It seems high, to the right of my right testicle, above my right testicle, in front, and what I would call upside down. It might be the perfect placement but it seems like I would like to move it. I even asked Dr Eid if I could tug on it to try to relocate it and he said “NO”

[TANGERINE]

I got the titan touch.

You should have some document from the hospital which they should have given you and there should be some stickers on that document. Those stickers will have the serial number of your implant. They will also say what kind it is. Mine says "titan touch" and that is what was used in feb 2017. I believe that the titan touch is the latest model for titan.

I suspect that if you were implanted this year, it is UNLIKELY that you got the older OTR titan.

But of course, the stickers with the serial numbers will be the solid data that you need.

By the way, yes, the "titan touch" sort of works as a one touch release system if you are willing to wait half an hour or so.

Here is how I use mine: for optimal deflation, I hold the button down and squeeze the cylinders while holding the buttons down (in other words, I do not use the one touch release feature). Then, for total deflation, I fold my penis over onto itself (in half) and over my fingers so that it is really squeezed dry.

I think it is important to squeeze the cylinders dry since the reservoir also can develop a capsule, so you will have less trouble with partial auto inflation if you work to get out every last drop. in turn, fully emptying the cylinders means that the reservoir stretches its surrounding capsule.

To say it another way, as you heal, you need to be cognizant of potential scars (pseudocapsules) forming around TWO areas:
The first area is the reservoir--you need to fill the reservoir to maximum so that you have minimal constricting scar there (minimal reservoir scar means less trouble with auto-inflation).
The second area is the penile shaft where the cylinders are. It is critical that you inflate to maximum early on so that you have the biggest penile shaft possible (ie, minimal scar pseudocapsule making a coffin effect of the cavernosal cylinders).

The good news is that it is normal for a new implantee to "be really bad" at deflating fully; so your confusion and frustration with making the release button work is rather common. It took me about four months to really figure out how to totally totally deflate.

[navy6587]

All...GREAT discussions and recommendations regarding what I see as a continual problem for new 'implantees'. Come November 1st, I hope I'm not too groggy in recovery so I can ask/ receive all the pertinent information on my Coloplast Titan...no matter what version it is. At least now I can be armed with answers to my doc's questions (if he asks me) about pump placement/ orientation. When warm, my scrotum can be 3-4 inches long and fairly roomy for my two boys. However, in a chilly OR I'm not sure how it will react to unfamiliar, gloved fingers and all the nurses stares. lol. I'm anticipating a rather fat packet of information to leave the surgery center with post-op do's and don'ts and mucho Titan data. If I do forget anything on implant day, I can redeem myself the next day when I see my surgeon to remove the catheter and deflate me. At least that's what I know now...I should probably change my profile to be more product ambiguous.

[Hawkman]

I got the titan touch.

You should have some document from the hospital which they should have given you and there should be some stickers on that document.....the stickers with the serial numbers will be the solid data that you need.

By the way, yes, the "titan touch" sort of works as a one touch release system if you are willing to wait half an hour or so.

Here is how I use mine: for optimal deflation, I hold the button down and squeeze the cylinders while holding the buttons down (in other words, I do not use the one touch release feature). Then, for total deflation, I fold my penis over onto itself (in half) and over my fingers so that it is really squeezed dry.

Thanks for the response Tangerine. My sticker say “Titan ........Touch Scrotal Zero degree angle cylinder set with pump.” So I guess that is the Titan Touch.

I am doubting I am up to bending my penis double and squeezing it dry 11 days out. Also I am curious if what you have left at that point is a totally deformed looking penis. I have no real problem with that, just curious if I understand the concept.

Finally, Tangerine. How do you lock the deflate button open so you don’t have to hold the button while you squeeze your penis?
PS:I just left a msg at Coloplast. It will be interesting to see how that turns out.