My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

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TomW46
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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby TomW46 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:20 pm

You pumped up the day after your surgery!?

The Titans do have larger circumference cylinders, but they don't expand or shrink. What you get is it. Whatever size they can fit into you is all you will ever have. The Titan absolutely gives a little more girth. The hardness when erect is not relevant as the LGX gets every bit hard as needed.

It's my understanding that the LGX can expand and, I know, is much more natural looking and feeling when flaccid. My hope is that with time the LGX will increase my size and girth. I'm only nine weeks out so it will take a while to know. I have already gained .5 cm length and .5 cm girth. Soon I'll be back to where I was in my eighth month with my Titan.

Did you consider just getting the larger model of the LGX? Anyway, I want to hear how you feel after 100 days because I did exactly the opposite as you. It will be interesting to compare notes.
Age 72, wife is 52. 20+1 cm Titan Touch implanted by Dr. Kramer on 18 October 2017. Revision to AMS LGX 21+2 cm on 11 June 2018 by Dr. Carrion at Tampa General. Age-related ED + slight Peyronies bend (left) and slight hourglass in the center.

Larry10625

Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby Larry10625 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:30 pm

MyImplant wrote:Ok.. just discharged! To my surprise this whole thing has been a cakewalk so far. Who knows what tomorrow brings.

Ok. Some facts. My old lgx was 15 cm with one rte 3 cm and the other rte was 4cm. Max was 19cm.

The new Titan is 22cm with rte of 1cm. Total 23cm.

Comparing the Titan is 4cm longer. HOWEVER what anot the expandibility of the lgx? Argument starts there. 20% of 15cm is 3cm. So this would bring the lgx to 23 cm .. same as the Titan! But my doctors (three of them) say the lgx does not expand like that. WTF.

In any event I will have at least a 6 1/4 girth.. a substantial improvement over my current 5 1/2 (provided i can my dick pumped up.. see above)

and it had been relatively pain free

WHO DAT SAINTS! yeah I had to throw in some football. Besides Falcon fans call us big dicks anyhow. Little do they know how right they are. Hgh.. Hgh.. Hgh.



Your three doctors are full of shit. I was implanted on 14 December 2017 and have steadily grown in length and girth EVERY MONTH since the implant. Maybe not a huge amount but an increase none the less. :)

Larry

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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby DougAnd » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:04 pm

Who told you that the Titan girth keeps growing? From what I've read it never changes. Whatever you have the first try is all you'll ever get unless your tunica is holding it back. But expanding in girth more than the LGX over time? I don't think so please show us that link if you can.
Larry I'm surprised that you dissed these morons for lying. Never saw that side of you before. We're not that much different
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata

Mr stuby
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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby Mr stuby » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:25 pm

now now we can understand your frustration, let!s act like gentlemen. Maybe they are a little "short" on under standing Boys get your facts correct.
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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby MyImplant » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:10 am

Jeez.. what did I start? First i want to be corrected if I am wrong. This is constructive. Let me be more clear..

Before my original implant I was given demo implants of both the LGX and the Titan. Both expanded in girth. The Titan had greater girth at max inflation than the LGX. The LGX also expanded in length but the Titan did NOT expand longitudinally. My actual experience with the LGX confirms that..

In both products expandability is limited by the design. But you cannot go past the limits imposed by the tunicas. Thus we are limited to the lesser of f the two limits. The AMS rep said there is no way to know if you are beinglimited by your actual tunica.

In my care I just got my new Titan. It has the potential to expand more that the LGX BUT it might turn out that I was already maxed out by my tunica which means I will not get more girth with my Titan. I don't know for 6 weeks because my doctors protocol is NO cycling for 6 weeks. I am tempted to ignore this and cycle anyway. Obviously I must be thinking I am smarter and more experienced than my doctor who has done more than 4000 implants. I have to remind myself that i s should not expect to gain length with the Titan. So why cycle? I need to read more on this. But one would think Ihat when you pick a doctor you are picking his protocols. But 6 weeks and not touching my dick?
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.

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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby MyImplant » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:15 am

Larry.. I agree that the three doctors I mentioned are full of it. I think these are residents in training. It was not said by my actual implant doctor.
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.

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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby Hawkman » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:42 pm

One only has to read Merrixx’s precise detailed journal to know a penis with a Titan implant continues to get longer over time if implanted by a skilled surgeon. It can also increase in girth. Dr. Eid explains that the Titan has no real girth measurement. It is tunica defendant and will stretch to the limits the tunic will stretch over time. If the patient has a weak/thin tunica that characteristic of the Titan can be a negative for some patients. It can get so wide it loses ridgity. The LGX is limited in girth by a mesh wall much like a garden hose. IF the patients tunica girth-limits are less than the LGX then either brand will give the same girth.

Also, for clarity, Titans do have a very modest length expansion. The LGX is not magic. If sized properly it puts traction on a penis much like a VED or a traction device. If a patient has maxed out from traction before surgery, (7 lbs of tension for 8 hours) no amount of LGX inflation for a hour or two can further stretch that penis. That is why Dr. Eid will tell you that a Titan will give the same ultimate length. The LGX unarguably will contract lengthwise on deflation and thus be shorter and more natural for the locker room.
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html

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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby Larry10625 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:30 pm

MyImplant wrote:Jeez.. what did I start? First i want to be corrected if I am wrong. This is constructive. Let me be more clear..

Before my original implant I was given demo implants of both the LGX and the Titan. Both expanded in girth. The Titan had greater girth at max inflation than the LGX. The LGX also expanded in length but the Titan did NOT expand longitudinally. My actual experience with the LGX confirms that..

In both products expandability is limited by the design. But you cannot go past the limits imposed by the tunicas. Thus we are limited to the lesser of f the two limits. The AMS rep said there is no way to know if you are beinglimited by your actual tunica.

In my care I just got my new Titan. It has the potential to expand more that the LGX BUT it might turn out that I was already maxed out by my tunica which means I will not get more girth with my Titan. I don't know for 6 weeks because my doctors protocol is NO cycling for 6 weeks. I am tempted to ignore this and cycle anyway. Obviously I must be thinking I am smarter and more experienced than my doctor who has done more than 4000 implants. I have to remind myself that i s should not expect to gain length with the Titan. So why cycle? I need to read more on this. But one would think Ihat when you pick a doctor you are picking his protocols. But 6 weeks and not touching my dick?



Touching it before your doctor instructed can have permanent consequences... he didn't just make that number up. You want to cycle so that scar tissue does not form making inflating impossible.

Larry

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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby MyImplant » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:11 pm

It seems that if the dr undersizes you the LGX might help you. E.g. suppose your actual current tunica length is 20 cm. And the dr implants an 18 cm cylinder including any rtes. If the implant is a Titan. You are out of luck. You will properly have a floppy glans. On the other hand if you have an LGX you can expand another 20% over the installed size. So if your LGX is 15cm with 3cm rte you can gain another 3cm which will cover the undersize of 2cm. Advantage LGX.

There is another advantage. I believe you can continue to work on lengthening your penis AFTER the implant. Manual stretching, hanging weights, VED, and just leaving yourself pumped to maximum putting pressure on your glans and hopefully your tunica. In my example you still have another 1cm left. Remember the expansion was. 3cm. You used 2cm ro deal with the undersizing. You now have 1cm potential. Advantage LGX.

Inspite of these advantages I have chosen the Titan for my revision. I believe the experienced implanting doctors know how to size you. They are very conscious of how men are about length and floppy glans. They get a lot of grief when they fuck up. Hence their stretched flaccid test to lower your expectations. So if you have confidence the dr measures you correctly the Titan should give you maximum length.

Here is where I think the Titan wins. Girth is what really matters assuming you have enough length to stroke for the position you have chosen. Women I have fucked like my girth and comment on it. 5 1/2" maybe 1"above average. If I can get to 6 1/4" this is really noticeable to women. But bordering on discouraging blow jobs. BUT here is the kicker.. more girth makes your dick more sensitive. You can come faster in a looser pussy.

The Titan wins hands down (or so I am being told.). Then throw in a harder dick, easier pumping, better durability I go for the Titan IF MY DR MEASURES ME CORRECTLY. If I am worried about undersizing the I would choose the LGX.

Obviously a controversial subject. When I did my original implant I was very scared I might lose length. I had to resist my dr's recommendations to use the Titan. Now after 8 years and some experience I can venture out with the Titan.

I am 3 days after revision and to early to see if I was right. Early indications are that I have big thick dick. HURRA!

Hope this helps.
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.

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Re: My revision is underway. Titan replacing LGX

Postby MyImplant » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:25 pm

Day 5 Progress and thoughts

Tuesday, August 21, 2018
2:20 PM

Revision replacing LGX 19CM (15 CM + 4 CM rte) using the infrapubic approach with a Titan 23 CM (22 CM + 1 CM rte) using the PenoScrotal approach combined with Scrotoplasty to remove excessive scrotal webbing. Post op instructions leave cylinders uninflated, do not cycle. Do not use VED, shower but no warm baths. Pull down on pump to bottom of scrotum 4x a day. Basically leave everything alone. See him in 14 days and no sex for 6 weeks. (really? Do I have that discipline. I cheated before on my first implant and got away with it.)

History: For 8 years I have made daily use of my VED to help me get erect. Pump problems with my LGX. I am either fucking or masturbating every day, sometimes many times during a day. Experienced in edging and use of prostate massagers (e.g. Aneros). I mention this as commentary on durability and use of my implant. My point.. I use the hell out of my implant which I would think any implant doubters would like to know.

Until I decided on my revision I did not do any penis stretching such as hanging weights which I had done before my first implant. Fear of injuring my implant. But preparing for my revision I did some weight hanging. Obviously I want the longest revision implant my penis can accept. I mention this because my doctor said that I would have an easier time with the revision.

Since I digress another point I would think most men want to know is… how long can stay interested and successful in sex? I am 81 and actually more active now that when I was younger. I have just started testosterone therapy and it really works.

Now back to my progress reports…

Pain: relatively pain free. Have taken a total of 2 pain narcotic pain pills. Maybe 6 dosages of 2 Tylenol. 1 dosage last night. I felt like my uninflated cylinders were shoving against my glans.. Dreaded erosion! Here I was worried my doctor would undersize me and did he oversize me?.. Oh shit. 2 Tylenol and pain goes away in 10 mins. Nothing since in last 12 hours. Just jitters. I think I am OK.

Appearance: Day 1 My penis and scrotum looked like a disaster area. A purple glob with stiches sticking out. Pad pad increased. Much worse than I remember for my first implant. Dick looks maybe one inch. Where does the penis stop and scrotum start? What did I do to myself? I would not take pictures because I could not stand to look at them.

Day 5.. Good News: it is all clearing up. My flaccid penis is at least 5" and girth nearest to glans is 5 1/4". Girth at base would be off the charts due to swelling etc. The scrotoplasty looks like it worked. Balls hanging more at the base rather than halfway up my dick. A lot of swelling has gone down. Heading in right direction. I still worry about infection but I see no signs of it. 2 more days of inflammation pills as a precaution.

I think I have something to add in the various controversies of sizing, cycling, AMD vs Titan. I will try to do this in a separate post as I apparently have drifted from my subject line. Whatever I say now means little. It is too early in my process to make comparisons. But it may have interest to others.

A sneak look.. I will increase my girth by an inch and my length by 5/8 ". Harder dick and easier to pump. Time will tell if I am right. But already I know that I have not lost ground
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.


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