LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

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wallyworld
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LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby wallyworld » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:22 pm

Hey all,

I'm being implanted with an LGX and flat reservoir on October 22 and I had some questions about the practical versus theoretical results so I called AMS. After a few disappointing experiences (no response, no promised call backs, no forthcoming medical studies, etc.) I finally spoke to someone who is a surgical nurse and has been with AMS since 2000. That phone call was worth the wait.

I really had two questions. The first question was what problem was AMS trying to solve with the LGX. The second question was what that 25% ability would mean to me specifically. The answer to both questions was pretty straightforward. The device was designed to help people with penile scarring that resulted from any number of causes. The 25% ability was designed to allow those individuals to get closer to, or achieve, their pre-scarring length. The answer to the second question was based on my personal facts in that I don't have any scarring from any of the causes she mentioned and I don't seem to have lost any length from my radical prostatectomy. So, I posed this question, "If I don't have any loss from those causes AND I don't hypothetically lose any following the implant surgery, how does the 25% ability affect me, if at all?" Answer: "Even if you haven't lost any length, this device could still improve on your length providing your physiology allows it." In other words, if I had a six inch, God given, erect penis, I could, theoretically eventually get to a 7.5 inch erect penis provided everything down there was elastic enough to do that.

All of this seems to be in synch with medical papers I have read about the elasticity of penile tissue and the implants acting as tissue expanders. Several documents I read stated that almost every revision is re-implanted with a larger device when the time comes for that. So, your still limited to your personal physiology but the implant seems to be able to stretch your penis beyond what your normal blood flow and pressure can.

Finally, we talked at length about a wide range of topics from the above to effective measuring, use of RTEs, choosing a DR., etc.. Well worth the time and I suggest calling AMS if you have any questions but count on having to be persistent and insistent on talking to a QUALIFIED individual.

I don't have much more to add to this but I'll keep an eye on the thread and chime in where I think I can help. This conversation helped me level set my expectations as to what to expect as well as the theoretical possibilities. I will add one more thing and that is the purpose of the discussion was to understand what the device could and could not do and not to find out how to make my dick longer. After 30 years of ED and sporadically effective, and now completely ineffective, injections, I am sure I will be happy with a working, on demand, penis.
63, ED 30+ yrs. Trifecta: MS (30 yrs), RP, (10 yrs), Afib (5 yrs). Injecting 30 yrs: PGE1 - Mega-quad mix. Injections achieve no success now as I add new diseases to my resume :D . Implanted Oct 22, 2018 LGX 15 cm x 12 mm + 4 cm RTE, CONCEAL reservoir.

MyImplant
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby MyImplant » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:18 pm

Really a great post. You asked right questions.

Added comment. When iI is the AMS I was impressed with the length expandibility. My reasoning was I would get a longer sick. WRONG! THE dr subtracts the amount of expected expansion so the erosion problem does not occur. Defeats the theory that lgx 700 ultra provides a longer penis
Since girth can be more important than length the Titan should be considered.
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.

MyImplant
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby MyImplant » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:20 pm

Terrible typing. "Dick" not "sick".
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.

justanotherdrumber
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby justanotherdrumber » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:31 pm

MyImplant wrote:Really a great post. You asked right questions.

Added comment. When iI is the AMS I was impressed with the length expandibility. My reasoning was I would get a longer sick. WRONG! THE dr subtracts the amount of expected expansion so the erosion problem does not occur. Defeats the theory that lgx 700 ultra provides a longer penis
Since girth can be more important than length the Titan should be considered.

Then it would be "your" particular surgeon and N0T the AMS 700 LGX that failed you !
Erie,PA
Age 64 - g/f 34
Implanted ams700 lgx, 18cm+1cm RTE
March 2018

Bandit
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby Bandit » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:44 pm

mwmwall
Thanks for sharing the information from ams. It is helpful for any potential implantees to gather as much info prior to making their decision. I am implanted with the lgx. I had my surgery in may/2017. I did lose some length from removal of my prostate. I have been cycling daily since a month after my surgery. I have pretty much gained back my loss. As a matter of fact, i still experience stretching pain to this day when cycling. I will hold it hard for over an hour daily and squeeze and stretch by hand as i pump. I try to put a few more pumps every 15 minutes. I know the theory is 20% + increase potential from ams. I also know there are some brothers who are nay sayers. But i have to say, if im not still stretching after 14 months of daily erections why do i still get growing pains. So, i have to agree with the information you shared. This is just my experience. I am not trying to sell the lgx and im not trying to start controversy. Just thought i would add my 2 cents. Moral of the story is i have a working erection and a smiling wife. Any gains are just a bonus !
Bandit
Born 1958, married. Prostate Cancer. RRP November/2014. PSA undetectable since. Implant May/2017 AMS700LGX 18 cm + 1.5 cm RTEs.

alibaba
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby alibaba » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:48 pm

MyImplant wrote:. WRONG! THE dr subtracts the amount of expected expansion so the erosion problem does not occur. Defeats the theory that lgx 700 ultra provides a longer penis


My understanding of the situation also plus it gives wiggle room for lazy sloppy doctors and eliminates the possibility of a fold or dog ear that Coloplast is noted for.
LGX 21cm .Milam 01/13/16. Horror; both service and surgical outcome. hated infrapubic installation. Kramer revision 03/01/17. 22cm Titan +1.5cm extender. Those who think their opinion is the only one that matters are a danger to themselves and others.

MyImplant
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby MyImplant » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:58 am

Let me clear something up.

First.. I am not criticizing the Lgx 700. It is a great implant. I happen to think that MY pump was defective. Luck of the draw. Others have not had this problem. My pump problem should not discourage anyone from selecting it.

Two.. I am the one who concluded the length expandability feature might make my pennies longer. I did not realize that the concert length must be reduced to deal with this expandibility.. which cancels out benefit AS I READ IT. "My bad".. not AMS. I am responsible ..not my doctor not AMS. To the contrary I think my dr did a great job on me. I wish he had not retired.

Three.. I think that my additional length is probably because i have been using my VED daily for 8 years.. not because my dr mismeasured. Just a guess

Summary.. I think both manufacturers are putting out Incredible products. I was on the"length" kick 8 yrs ago. Now I am on the girth kick

Believe me..I an so sold on the idea of implants it enters my crazy mind that everybody should get one. That's a stupid statement and I know it. It is just my way of encouraging fence sitters to go for it.. either brand is a good choice. My expectations for the Titan is better pump, more ridgit, more girth.
AMS 700 LGX 19 CM (15CM + 4CM RTE) Sept 2009 by Dr. Neil Baum (erect 7.25 BPL to tip Girth 5 1/4" Replaced by Dr. Hellstrum 8/17/18 with Titan 22 CM + 1 CM RTE. Now 8 1/4' BPEL side to tip, 5 7/8" girth midshaft and 7+" at base.

ED2013
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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby ED2013 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:17 am

MyImplant wrote:Let me clear something up.

First.. I am not criticizing the Lgx 700. It is a great implant. I happen to think that MY pump was defective. Luck of the draw. Others have not had this problem. My pump problem should not discourage anyone from selecting it.

Two.. I am the one who concluded the length expandability feature might make my pennies longer. I did not realize that the concert length must be reduced to deal with this expandibility.. which cancels out benefit AS I READ IT. "My bad".. not AMS. I am responsible ..not my doctor not AMS. To the contrary I think my dr did a great job on me. I wish he had not retired.

Three.. I think that my additional length is probably because i have been using my VED daily for 8 years.. not because my dr mismeasured. Just a guess

Summary.. I think both manufacturers are putting out Incredible products. I was on the"length" kick 8 yrs ago. Now I am on the girth kick

Believe me..I an so sold on the idea of implants it enters my crazy mind that everybody should get one. That's a stupid statement and I know it. It is just my way of encouraging fence sitters to go for it.. either brand is a good choice. My expectations for the Titan is better pump, more ridgit, more girth.



Hey I fucked a hooker once and made her cum 5 times and she agrees everyone should have an implant lol

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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby Hawkman » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:43 am

Dr. Eid who has likely done more implants than anyone on earth told me, if sized properly, I would get the same length from either and that was my preop length. He said what I would get from the LGX was length reduction on deflation which matches their ad slogan of "Hard for the bedroom, soft for the locker room". One thing is certain, after years of wearing high-torq penile traction for 2 - 4 hours a day and maxing out, no inflatable cylinder inside of my penis pumped up for an hour a day was going to make my penis longer.

Dr. Eid also said that the Titan can make a penis have more girth because the girth is limited only by the limits of the tunica rather than a mesh on the cylinder. He said that can be a fault IF your tunica is thin or weak because the penis will stretch very wide and lose rigidity. I asked my wife, (who likes to say size does not matter) "if I told you I had to gain 20% in length or 20% in girth and you only had ten minutes to push a button which one would you hit." She said girth.

The AMS is a top notch product but both of these have some advantages. That is why I would always suggest a doctor that uses both.
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html

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Re: LGX and the magical 25% increase in length

Postby Greg1956 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:00 am

I have an AMS LGX and was implanted almost 11 months ago. My penis size from the time I was 16 until about 50 was 5" soft and 6.5" hard. As I aged, had 30 years of issues with ED and especially after having my Prostate removed, I lost a lot of length. My wife had always been happy with my 5" girth so I looked at the implant as a chance to recapture the lost length and although I let my surgeon have the final say on which implant I would get, I told him the LGX was the one that appealed to me.

After sugery he confirmed I had an LGX and said once he began surgery it was the clear choice for my specific anatomy and the thicker cylinders of the Titan would not have suited me as well. I was happy.

A comment above talks about how when deflated your penis ends up shorter than a Titan. While that is true, my deflated length is longer than my God given size. My fully pumped length is approaching my original God given length, compared to the 4.5" stretched length I had pre-op. My girth went up from 5" to 5.5".

I am happy for all of you who are thrilled with your implants, no matter what brand they are. We all have different anatomies and this is not a one size fits all product. I do believe for men who have larger penises, Titans are superior, but for those of us in the average range either brand can produce great results.

Greg
I am 64 and had ED from a VL. Implanted by Dr. Ronald Anglade in Atlanta on 9/18/17. I have an AMS700LGX 21 cm via a Penoscrotal incision. Very happy with results. 6" soft and 6 3/4” x 5 5/8” hard.


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