Newbie with lots of questions

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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby bldoink » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:42 pm

I pay $120 for 10 one ml vials. They charge the same regardless of mix. It's a FL only pharmacy. I'm guessing you're getting two 5ml vials. Your price sounds very competitive.

Yes, sometimes I use viagra with the injections. Don't do that. It's not recommended and is counseled against by doctors. I have nerve damage from an RP. Viagra alone does almost nothing for me and never has. It helps when using a VED and seems to allow me to use a little less injection mix. It seems to allow the valves that send blood to the penis to open but doesn't by itself tell anything to send the blood through. That is a very non-medical explanation and is likely pure crap but it's what I came up with. Anyhow, I believe it's fear of priapism that contraindicates the practice. You don't want that. Also, for most people there's no point in doing it as the injections negate the need for viagra or others of the type.

If needed you may want to search for threads on "cock rings" as a supplement to injections. I think they're great but if very tight time constraints come into play or you could cause damage.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby truckeic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:36 am

bldoink wrote:I pay $120 for 10 one ml vials. They charge the same regardless of mix. It's a FL only pharmacy. I'm guessing you're getting two 5ml vials. Your price sounds very competitive.

Yes, sometimes I use viagra with the injections. Don't do that. It's not recommended and is counseled against by doctors. I have nerve damage from an RP. Viagra alone does almost nothing for me and never has. It helps when using a VED and seems to allow me to use a little less injection mix. It seems to allow the valves that send blood to the penis to open but doesn't by itself tell anything to send the blood through. That is a very non-medical explanation and is likely pure crap but it's what I came up with. Anyhow, I believe it's fear of priapism that contraindicates the practice. You don't want that. Also, for most people there's no point in doing it as the injections negate the need for viagra or others of the type.

If needed you may want to search for threads on "cock rings" as a supplement to injections. I think they're great but if very tight time constraints come into play or you could cause damage.



Thanks for the info i do appreciate it...
52 yrs Type-2 Diabetes since 2003, ED issues since 2016, tried Oral Meds stopped working, started Trimix April 2018, Hickory NC USA

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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby NeedleD » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:34 pm

Being a "active" injector of these Med's I'd recommend 29G. The thinner needles bend and/or bounce off the tunica and you'll be injecting just under the skin which will cause a freaky lump. I use a 1/2 29G needle and plunge it all the way in to the hub.One sure way to know you're in the right spot is to aspirate the needle, drawing the plunger back a tad you should see blood, then proceed to inject. I inject 1/2 below the glans where the skin is thinner. Your Doc should give you a starter mix and a dose starting point. You can go up and down from there. Also, the starter mix may or may not give you the desired results and you may have to "UP" the strength of the mix. Before filling the needle always move it back and forth to "loosen" it up.
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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby oldbeek » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:35 am

Your URO or nurse should be working with you in their office until you produce a hard on. Demand it.!! You should not be wandering in the dark without even knowing if injections work. AFTER you have achieved a hard on, you can adjust up or down for hardness and duration. You could have venous leakage and injections will not work at all.
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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby truckeic » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:37 am

NeedleD wrote:Being a "active" injector of these Med's I'd recommend 29G. The thinner needles bend and/or bounce off the tunica and you'll be injecting just under the skin which will cause a freaky lump. I use a 1/2 29G needle and plunge it all the way in to the hub.One sure way to know you're in the right spot is to aspirate the needle, drawing the plunger back a tad you should see blood, then proceed to inject. I inject 1/2 below the glans where the skin is thinner. Your Doc should give you a starter mix and a dose starting point. You can go up and down from there. Also, the starter mix may or may not give you the desired results and you may have to "UP" the strength of the mix. Before filling the needle always move it back and forth to "loosen" it up.


I have got 29g 1/2 needles as well how much more pain would be involved or none at all.
52 yrs Type-2 Diabetes since 2003, ED issues since 2016, tried Oral Meds stopped working, started Trimix April 2018, Hickory NC USA

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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby truckeic » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:38 am

oldbeek wrote:Your URO or nurse should be working with you in their office until you produce a hard on. Demand it.!! You should not be wandering in the dark without even knowing if injections work. AFTER you have achieved a hard on, you can adjust up or down for hardness and duration. You could have venous leakage and injections will not work at all.


Well i am going to try this weekend on my own and if nor results i am going to call my uro and see.. but thanks for the advice...
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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby bldoink » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:17 pm

I'm going to have to disagree with NeedleD a bit. I will say that for him what he's doing is obviously correct. Whatever works for you is the right way to do it. I use the 31 G 5/16" exclusively. I've never had a deflected or bent needle. I don't "plunge" the needle in, I insert it more slowly so I can feel for the "spot" easier. I think the bending or deflecting of the needle is mainly an issue with auto injectors. Also, if I insert too far I'll pass the "sweet" spot then and plunger depressing will become more difficult and most likely result in a miss. So no, with me I don't insert a 1/2" to the nub. Your individual anatomy will dictate what injection technique is correct for you.

Again, I'm not saying NeedleD is wrong. It's obviously right for him. You will have to experiment a bit to find what is right for you. You may be lucky and get it right the first time but you should probably expect some trial and error as you get it figured out. Don't get discouraged if you don't have instant success.

Also don't let anyone rush you into an implant. Some members that have been implanted think you should skip all other options and rush to that last option. I've no doubt the implant was the correct solution for most of them. Others, I have to wonder why they're such strong advocates....? It may be the correct solution for you too. But like many, you may be perfectly happy with one of the other options. I am, at least for now. Maybe I'll have an implant someday, who knows. I'll know when/if that move is the right one for me.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby truckeic » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:27 pm

bldoink wrote:I'm going to have to disagree with NeedleD a bit. I will say that for him what he's doing is obviously correct. Whatever works for you is the right way to do it. I use the 31 G 5/16" exclusively. I've never had a deflected or bent needle. I don't "plunge" the needle in, I insert it more slowly so I can feel for the "spot" easier. I think the bending or deflecting of the needle is mainly an issue with auto injectors. Also, if I insert too far I'll pass the "sweet" spot then and plunger depressing will become more difficult and most likely result in a miss. So no, with me I don't insert a 1/2" to the nub. Your individual anatomy will dictate what injection technique is correct for you.

Again, I'm not saying NeedleD is wrong. It's obviously right for him. You will have to experiment a bit to find what is right for you. You may be lucky and get it right the first time but you should probably expect some trial and error as you get it figured out. Don't get discouraged if you don't have instant success.

Also don't let anyone rush you into an implant. Some members that have been implanted think you should skip all other options and rush to that last option. I've no doubt the implant was the correct solution for most of them. Others, I have to wonder why they're such strong advocates....? It may be the correct solution for you too. But like many, you may be perfectly happy with one of the other options. I am, at least for now. Maybe I'll have an implant someday, who knows. I'll know when/if that move is the right one for me.


I think i am going to have to do the auto injector due to my gut... wish that was not the case by oh well.. so by that i guess the 29g will be better huh?
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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby bldoink » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:58 pm

Yeah, I'm thinking that would be correct. 29G and 1/2".
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Newbie with lots of questions

Postby truckeic » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:25 am

bldoink wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking that would be correct. 29G and 1/2".


thanks!
52 yrs Type-2 Diabetes since 2003, ED issues since 2016, tried Oral Meds stopped working, started Trimix April 2018, Hickory NC USA


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