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lots of trouble

Postby gene30x » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:13 pm

I'm on my 3rd formula. First 2 from my primary care DR. 3rd from a Urologist who specializes in treating ED. This formula is the "highest he can go", 30-6-100 and it isn't working well.
78, reasonable health, don't know what I may be doing wrong. Inject at 10:00 spot about 1" from base. Is it possible injections just won't work for some? Had a blood flow analysis and DR. said no problem there??????????
New to injection, 77, ED for about 5 years. Tried pumping, testosterone pellets to no avail, and think I have hir a home run!

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby newtoed » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:42 pm

If you are sure your technique is right you can still try quadmix which has one more ingredient. If that doesn’t work your only option seems to be the implant.
All the best!
Age 54, Single, Los Angeles. Stage 2 rectal cancer in 2013. Radiation, surgery, chemo. In remission for 5 years. Some ED before cancer, complete since. 2-3 units of Trimix 40/30/2 2-3 times a week since Feb/2017 with great success!

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby once a writer » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:58 pm

You don't mention whether you had an initial injection in the doctor's office. If the only injections you've had are ones you've done yourself, it would be a good idea to ask the doc to give you one in the office. It would clear up any question about whether it's a technique issue.I think most of the injection guys here on FT would tell you that's how they were first introduced to trimix.
Eugene, Oregon, USA. Born 1941. Married 1968. ED since mid-1990s. Began trimix January 2014. Dosage gradually increased over time. Added cock ring in 2016. After dosage reached 30 units, switched to quad mix in May 2018. On blood pressure meds.

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby bldoink » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:54 pm

What the writer said. That wasn't my personal experience but it's what it should have been.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 10+ yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby CTR5000 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:13 pm

And after Quadmix, there's Pentamix. Not sure what your urologist means by "you're at the highest he can go." There ARE stronger formulas by far. Does he simply feel he's taken you as far as he's willing to take you? Are there additional underlying issues going on that preclude stronger mixes of different components? Other urologists may feel differently.

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby Stew52 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:29 pm

That's a heckuva strong mix: 30mg papavarine, 6mg phentolomine, 100mcg PGE per ml. Strong enough to "motivate" a rino. Why so strong; did you start here? How many "units" were you instructed to inject? Did you start lower and work up? More is not always better as the PGE burn in some can defeat the purpose. I agree with the comment what it might be best to do a doctor's office demo. Not getting it into the cavernosa can cause a misfire. Good luck!
NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby gene30x » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:15 pm

This is my 3rd formula. Only tried once so far. Didn't have any pain but the erection was not strong enough for penetration. 3 units was the starting point for this formula. Urologist said go up to 5 and if not working add 45 mg Viagra generic.
Still hoping.
New to injection, 77, ED for about 5 years. Tried pumping, testosterone pellets to no avail, and think I have hir a home run!

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby andrew1959nj » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:01 pm

Your technique is VERY important. If the Tri-Mix isn't being injected into the right tissue it won't work. I used two Doc for Tri-Mix and the last one spent a lot of time showing and watching me give myself an injection. I hate needles so an autoinjector was a huge plus. No injection pain. Its still more misses than hits for me so I'm working out the details for an implant this fall. It will be like an early Christmas present to me! LOL
60 years old. MS and Severe ED 10+ years. Pills and injections never worked well. Implanted 5/16/2019 by Dr. Sadeghi. Titan 20cm + 2cm RTE.

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby Stew52 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:40 pm

IMO and experience, the PGE/alprostadil/prostaglandin is a double-edged sword. It makes you harder for longer indeed, but it appears to me to have side-effecs like a good burn for some/many, and from what I read, possibly scarring. I was up to 40 mcg of PGE per injection (Caverject then pure PGE) up from 20 or so. For me, the stronger the PGE dose, the more burn and the less likely I am to cum as well as other issue. The burn caused willy to intermittently die down (on and off and on again, literally, which ain't all bad at 66 for 30-60 min total). After a recent detour to test Tri-Mix dosing proportions and strength, I'll be going back to Tri-Mix. There appears to be a good synergy with the papavarine and phentolmine that allow you to be successful with less PGE. Just my experience and opinion.
NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.

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Re: lots of trouble

Postby Cigar56 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:31 am

gene30x wrote:I'm on my 3rd formula. First 2 from my primary care DR. 3rd from a Urologist who specializes in treating ED. This formula is the "highest he can go", 30-6-100 and it isn't working well.
78, reasonable health, don't know what I may be doing wrong. Inject at 10:00 spot about 1" from base. Is it possible injections just won't work for some? Had a blood flow analysis and DR. said no problem there??????????


My formula is pretty close to yours. I'm at 30-3-100. Try to move up a little farther from the base. Also increase the number of units you inject. You're on a very strong formula. See what you can do to make it work.
I've tried everything -- pills, injections pumps -- and now I am at the final frontier.


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